Steve... its always about race.Your not Maori. How would you know? Maori over populate the prisons, Too many Maori are unemployed and/or recieve benefits, Maori harm their kids. Dont hear anyone complaining about that label, yet Sir Howard and Willie Apiata are NZers.Being new here you obviously believe that seeing organisations such as The Maori Party, Maori TV, Maori radio hosts means that the crown have brought Maori along side as equals and why do Maori carry a chip on their shoulders. How can a Maori be racsist anyway when there are no full Maori any more?

Sam - since when was it being about race acceptable? its amusing you can judge my understanding of race relations in our fine country by one post on the internet, but ok.

did you think that maybe it actually ISNT about race, and its more the way he goes about things? its not what you say its how you say it, and in this case 'bishop' brian says things with a megaphone 2 inches from your face. his message is one of separatism, one not needed in nz when we have enough disparity as it is. he preaches that his church is the only way to salvation, and that all outsiders dont understand. what church has security guards on the premises!! if there was a 'white mother****er' (i'm using hone harewira's words here) that was running a church of a similar nature, one of agression, group pressure and exclusion tactics, then he would be lambasted just as much.

#3 Steve has voiced his concern a lot better than i have.

Willie - Being reasonably new to the country, I didn't recognise that the Bishop (soon to be Pope or Emperor?) was Maori so can assure you that the disgust is nothing to do with race. What is disgusting is that twice in the same week, two prominent Maori (yourself and Hone Harawira) inisist on playing the race care in response to valid criticism raised about behaviour. You are the one displaying the racism that you accuse others of and it does not suit someone of your obvious intelligence to do so to whip up further controversy.

Kyle ... it's always been about race. And it shall ever more be about race ... But, its clear you don't understand that! Your condescending acknowledgment of the huge good he has done is both patronising and arrogantly one-sided!

I am not a member of his church, but I also condemn the public education system to hell! Is that cult like behaviour Kyle? Does that have a part NZ?

No ... thats freedom of expression!

willi are you kidding, you always pull out the race card.

its the security at teh gates, the standover tactics, the forcing of money by use of group pressure out of people that probably can't afford it.

yes, they have done wonders, but when the congregation is paying for things like having Brian's roof lifted off so he can fit his new single piece of wood dining table in you do wonder where teh money is going.

they have every right to enjoy the fruits of their labours, but if they admitted that it was a business and not a church, then people might be more lenient to it.

Brian condems the public education system openly, and all outside his church, that is cult-like behaviour and has no part in NZ.