Time called at Temperance

Last updated 23:10 07/01/2009
ANDREW GORRIE/The Dominion Post
CLOSING TIME: Andrew Gibson, owner of Temperance Bar inside the three level Wellington bar, which has been put into receivership by head leaseholder DB Breweries.

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Recivers have closed the doors at The Temperance bar less than six months after the first pint was pulled in what was billed as Wellington's "superpub".

Black plastic bags cover the windows at the pub, official home for the Hurricanes and Wellington Lions rugby teams and supporters.

The Temperance opened to fanfare in July when it was championed as New Zealand's largest pub. It has three bars and a micro brewery which straddle the block between Blair St and Cambridge Tce.

While it is turning a profit, head leaseholder DB Breweries was concerned about the way the $4 million complex was being managed.

"DB has stepped in to protect our investment and the outlet by putting in place a receiver and removing the owner," DB spokesman Andrew Campbell said.

A report from receivers is expected to be with DB today, and the bar is expected to reopen under the brewery's guidance ready for the weekend.

The Temperance was partly bankrolled by the brewery which subleased the property to bar owner Andrew Gibson.

Mr Campbell said DB was still owed money.

"It's not a massive figure but when coupled with the way the outlet was being managed ... it has got to the point where some action had to be taken."

Mr Gibson admits rent and loan repayments are owing but said management had been solid.

"It would be fair to say it has been a financial strain on us as a group but to say it has been mismanaged, I don't think that is correct or fair."

Mr Gibson said he had been in promising negotiations with a multinational company which he would not name to sell The Temperance when the receivers arrived.

"I think the reality is that DB has jumped the gun a little bit."

He said financial stress started when construction of the bar went over budget by $1.9 million.

"It is hard to get out of that."

Mr Gibson sold another of his pubs, The Establishment in Courtenay Place, about nine weeks ago. Part of the proceeds went to pay construction costs at The Temperance. He is also selling another bar, The Big Kumara, with the deal being sealed tomorrow.

Mr Gibson still owns Jays Bar and Cafe in Johnsonville and The Loaded Hog on the waterfront.

DB believes The Temperance's future is rosy, a view backed by Wellington Rugby chief executive Greg Peters. "We have an excellent relationship with DB Breweries, which is a longstanding partner of Wellington Rugby and the Hurricanes. We look forward to working with them for many years."

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12 comments
Tiana   #12   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Interesting comments. I have found that a lot of the times, having the dancefloor so packed means I just can't be bothered pushing my way through the bunch of sweaty dancers to the bar, so I go without. In other words, the area where you can purchase drinks is not accesible at all times, meaning a lot of people I know will go there, dance, then go to a quieter bar nearby to buy a drink. If it is money they are looking for, it may well be just by organising the bar area a bit better, or even roping it off.

I too have found that at quiet times there are a lot of staff on, which might add to the problem?

I really hope that Temperance carrys on in business with the doors open, as it is a good place where you can do something different on each level.

Ive found getting in to Temperance no problem (might well be just because I am female) BUT a note to those people that are getting sick of this line business - its far better if you just walk around to the other side of Temperance, instead of waiting in line and getting your quiet rage building up as 14yr old looking girls seem to get in with no probs ;).

Plus, the Bouncer on the other side always seems happy to see anyone - must get lonely!

Mark   #11   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

This is the old story of DB blaming operators for their bad decisions again. They tell the operators that they have the right plan, architects and budget and the right concept and then leave them to fail with huge debt, poor service and arrogance that is unbelieveable. I have been put in a similar situation by DB and they are just trying to make sure they are not blamed for their incompetence. andrew campbell their spokeswoman needs to be careful as other operators in the trade will view his turning on Andy as a real negative and that the old DB arrogance is returning. Good luck to Andy, he is one of the best operators out there and I am sure he will come back.

John   #10   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Always someone bigger around the corner that will do the same thing to you. I would hope this humbles Andrew a bit. Its a shame many staff will be unsure about their jobs and that many who foolishly trusted Andrew Gibson will lose money from the work put into the fitout of this monstrous oversized venture.

Bar Manager   #9   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

All i can say to this is HAHA! Epic fail award of 2008 goes to Temperance, what a joke, a bar that big in a city that is already over populated with bars, opened 8 months late at huge extra cost, opening during hard ecconomic times, door staff who were idiots, staff who were ill trained, Poor DB, all that money invested in this place and now u need to put in more after the reputation of this bar has gone even further downhill! Good luck opening by 7's! My bet was 7 months, dam i was close!

dan   #8   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

my god. what the. pitty it has come to this a andy. intereting how people moan about getting in and getting round. Ive worked on and off for andy for four years now. typically the bars he has operated don't have trouble and little pink slips are minimal. I have seen him change singlehandedly where people drink. The estab was a quiet little hole when he took it over and now look at it. even when temp opened it was packed most weekends. i actually tried to have my 21st there in december and couldnt cos it was too booked including two fully booked sundays. spoke to any yesterday. He is a bit upset. Db say they thought it was ill managed. Ha ha. you try and get the place going in these times DB. I know gibbo and he is a fighter. I think the comments the corporate giant made have actually been taken as a bully. was this a set up from the start. i mean db were so desperate to get a decent pub on cortenay since lion has it all. well all i can say is i have worked for gibbo and gone up against him. I can tell you and i am sure oter operators will agree it is better to be on his side or not. Andy i look forward to your comeback in march. Good Luck Blair St Dan S

Sophie   #7   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

About 5 friends and i went there one saturday night, only to be turned away because we didnt have a VIP card. Later on we were let in only to find it half empty. If they let people in then they wouldnt have such a problem.

in_line   #6   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

ha ha, yeah I wish I could have had the chance to be kicked out... they wouldn't even let me in. Boo hiss Temperance.

Darren   #5   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Andrews a really good guy who's done really well so far in this industry and I hope he recovers from this bit of a setback, but unfortunately I have seen both scenarios described in the first emails occur frequently (ie. they tried to go a bit too "exclusive" and the very unprofessional young bouncers were "inconsistent" ie. very picky with guys shoes etc, but appeared to let their mates/bro's in with no questions asked and jump the queue - and yes the more T & A the little girls showed the quicker the got moved in...

Far too many staff on at quiet times too ?

And too hard to get upstairs through all the (mostly non-drinking) teeny-boppers on the dancefloor - annoying most people could not use the Cambridge Terrace entrance too !

Hope to see you sort this one out tho Andrew ! :)

Anthony   #4   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

We have some serious problems why this place and others will fail. The prices that these places are charging are very high , hence the reason why everyone drinks at home and then decends on town later in the night.It would be interesting to see how much gets spent after say 11pm when the people come from home. Too flashy,correct,the days of disposable incomes are gone and by the time you add in a taxi fare home , yep its very expensive. Im too old to wait in lines for entry ,for sometimes long times and watching other people jump the queues , is quite frustrating.

jill   #3   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

interesting this. im a regular there too and have never had a problem. it will be interesting to see how a brewery will go running this place. Wasn't it DB's brain child anyway. When i have been in there it has been packed on all floors and i changed from my favorate bar accross the road to join madam jojo's. seems to me some of those people came from somewhere. DB i hope you look after me when i come in Jill


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