It's a shame 'Climate scientists will have to work hard persuade people their findings are credible' after doing just that over a period of decades - only to hit a solid wall of public incomprehension built on combined bank accounts of the massive oil lobby.

I've read the leaked emails, I've read some of the science, I've even heard an interview with one of the scientists who complained.

There's a real risk to believing everything we're told.

Actually hearing the interview though, with one of the scientists whose email was 'leaked', FIRST HAND he made it clear that his objection was not to theme ie that there is global warming trend and this appears to be caused by human activity, but only to particular statistics mistaken from his research.

In this case the 'spin' is convincing people that the 'leaked' email and flawed report mean that there is no general consensus amongst the scientific community.

Some disingenious scientists and self-proclaimed experts amongst our media claim that such a community is even attempting to mislead us - an implausible claim when the real money is in oil.

The only real questions in the scientific community are as to the exact impacts the warming trend and associated human activity will have.

For some basic proof people only need look at photographs of sea ice - taken at various points across decades - covering, or shrinking, in the Arctic and Antarctic.

The consequences of pursuing policies based on manifestly flawed "science" will be visited on the hapless residents of Palmerston North if the CO2 bully boys get their way.

Global warming is actually caused by radiation from a huge hydrogen fusion reaction a couple of billion kilometres north of Wellington.

Nurse fetch the screens. It's time for Don and Steve to take their pills.

That's right Don. Those pesky Norse with their power stations, SUV's, steel mills,pumping all that CO2 in the air five hundred years ago in Greenland. No wonder the ice came. (er did I get that logic wrong -shouldn't the palce have got warmer not colder - shome mishtake surely?)

Emeritus Professor Phillip Stott summarises it all very well here...

http://mickysmuses.blogspot.com/2010/01/clamour-of-times.html

The thing I don't understand about global warming, is that the carbon released by the burning of fossil fuels is the same carbon that was locked up when ancient plants absorbed the carbon out of the atmosphere and then was eventually buried beneath the ground. The likelihood that we have a change in climate would then most likely be similar to one found during the Jurassic period. This at the very worst. (If all the worlds oil and coal deposits are mined).

However by developing sustainable forest plantations, whereby carbon is absorbed by young growing trees into celluose which is then converted into wood, which is then harvested. The carbon is then locked away once more, this time in terms of timber, we then are actually rectifying that balance.

Well done Dominion Post, it has taken a long time but at last a newspaper is willing to question, now we just need to convince Nick Smith and John Key to do the same.

Well done, at last, another journalist who has broken ranks, a hard thing to do, it takes guts. Exposing the lies and false hypothesis that man made CO2 creates "runaway dangerous global warming" will take time as the propaganda machines have been working overtime with taxpayers money. So many scaremongers have a taxpayer funded lifestyle and will deride those of independent thinking, and especially those with the temerity to publish their thoughts. Now we have Dr Nick Smith wanting to modify how our animals digest their natural foods. What will the unintended consequences be?

Ian McKinnon #1. Thanks for the compliment, as I believe I have at least a minor amount of intelligence. I sincerely hope you are not the person of that name associated with Victoria University and the Wellington City Council. I suspect you aren't, but a disclaimer would be welcomed all the same.

Jack #4. No doubt the highly successful Norse settlements on Greenland also took a view similar to yours - until it was too late....