Animal control chief opposes dog breed ban

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Animal control officers have argued against legislation banning specific dog breeds, saying even a labrador can be dangerous in the wrong hands.

A parliamentary select committee is hearing submissions on the Dog Control Amendment Bill (No 2). The bill makes it mandatory for dogs classified as menacing, because they are of a certain breed or type, to be neutered.

It also simplifies the process for adding breeds or types to dog-control legislation.

A schedule to the legislation lists breeds or types of dogs that may not be imported and, if they are present already, that are subject to muzzling when at large.

John Payne, president of the Institute of Animal Control Officers, provided a long list of amendments that he said were needed to improve the legislation, which the Government introduced in response to dog attacks.

He said the institute did not support breed-specific legislation for several reasons, including the fact that the greatest influence on dogs' aggression was environmental.

He told the committee that an American pit bull terrier could be an "extremely good animal" in the hands of a responsible owner, while a labrador in the wrong hands could be a danger.

Councils needed more effective legislation to deal with extremely aggressive dogs:

"Many councils know which ones they're dealing with but are quite hamstrung to be able to actually do something about it until it's probably too late."

Mr Payne had no problem with a ban on importing certain dogs, as long as the justification for their reputation was there.

People had opinions about certain breeds, but not necessarily the statistics to back them up. "One of the breeds that's actually most responsible for human fatalities over the last four or five years is a rottweiler. There's plenty of those already in New Zealand, yet they're not on the menacing list."

Asked by Labour MP Marian Hobbs whether there was any breed not already in New Zealand that he wanted banned, Mr Payne said a wolf hybrid. "I think a wolf hybrid is another one that seems to feature quite a bit in a lot of the write-ups from America and I just can't see the point in allowing that in."

Mr Payne also said the institute did not support the compulsory neutering of dogs classified as menacing.

Waikanae woman Nedra Shand, breeder and shower of Staffordshire bull terriers, also opposed the emphasis on certain breeds in the legislation.

Little research had been done, Mrs Shand said, and it appeared "media hype" against certain breeds had led to the Government's "quick-fix" legislation.

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Banning dog breeds would not stop the number of attacks or dog bites. "All dogs bite and, to my knowledge, since records have been taken, there have been less than 10 people killed in New Zealand due to dog bites.

"Not one has been caused by a dog of the same breed and most have been caused by crossbred dogs or mongrels."

* The Dutch Government plans to lift a 15-year-old ban on pit bull terriers because it has not led to any fewer biting incidents. It will focus instead on enforcing leashing laws and educating dog owners. NZPA

- © Fairfax NZ News

8 comments
dave   #8   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

brian tepper;;;;; labradors can be bad my neice was mauled by one and no longer has her facial mask,, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!

Tiff   #7   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Hey Brian, you want to hear of a Lab mauling? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/05/21/2007-05-21_i_wanted_cute_but_got_cujo-5.html

I've been attacked by 3 different lab mixes myself. I still love Labs, but I also love pit bulls. Pits are my breed of choice. Also, it is not ALL how you raise a dog. Genetics does play a part, BUT environment plays a much larger role.

Anon   #6   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

I totally agree with this story. The public is so against american pitbulls because the media only ever mentions attacks involving those dogs and there is never any positive media for them to try and regain their popularity. Banning this breed and trying to phase it out by neutering them is not the way to go, they will continue to be bred no matter what and there will always be a market for them, whether its for good responsible owners who want them as family pets or the small minority of scum who use them for fighting. In the end making this breed illegal will just make a black market for them, almost like drugs. They will just become A class dogs. Which is unfair to a dog who did nothing except end up in the hands of a irresposible owner!

ashlee   #5   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

and good on the dutch government for 'enforcing leashing laws and educating dog owners'. and good on john payne for arguing the same kind of point and saying its not the breed. when i was stdying at tech john payne took us for a lecture, he has a lot of respect for dogs and experience with them im glad hes on that team.

dogs arent born bad, just as people arent.

Ash   #4   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

as a proud pitbull owner i would just like to say that ive never had any problems with my pitbulls and knowing others that also own them, never had problems with theirs. i can assure you if you got yourself a pitbull puppy and raised it the best you can it would be an awesome pet. there are dangerous dogs out there and yeah some of them are pitbulls. some poeple own these dogs because of their bad reputation, they want a mean powerful scary dog to protect their property or make them look tough or whatever.. these are the people that are ruining the breed and making them look bad, you'l find that these dogs are probably not registered, not well looked after, not socialised and spend most of their time chained up in the back yard because they cant take them anywhere.there are people out there who need better education about bringing up a dog and how to socialise them so they become well adjusted animals, in my experience pitbulls are extemely social dogs and love to be around people and other dogs. you blame them for starting fights with your dog - dominance issues can be a common problem for ANY DOG, and the OWNER needs to keep the dog under control in public, and if they can't, then keep the dog at home. do you still want to blame the dog? are you saying its all the dogs fault it wasnt on a lead.. or fenced.. or taught how to behave with other dogs??

ive been attacked by a chihuahua before, they can be just as vicious but because of their size they couldnt do as much damage.. however if i was a child it COULD be a different story...? ive been snapped at by a cocker spaniel while working at a dog groomers while i was trying to give him a bath.. if he wasnt already muzzled he couldve bitten me. how many of these attacks are provoked i wonder? not that im making excuses for them but they will only take so much before they stick up for themselves and snap.. for example: some dogs arent brought up with children and children dont know any better, they'll poke and prod and pull their whiskers, this has happened in my home when we had a mixed breed dog, she snapped, even the most loving gentle dog can snap, does this make them dangerous? no. kids should not be left alone with dogs full stop, especially such a large powerful breed. i think you should get to know some pitbulls before you judge them, dont go by what you see on tv.god, our cat is more vicious than our pitties, we should have a sign on our gate saying... sod the dog, beware of the cat! did you know in america these dogs are used as police dogs, search and rescue dogs, and they help rehabilitate sick people? but because the dickheads out there are using them to make money and entertainment from dogfights, they have had to put a ban on these dogs, these dogs have saved lives and thats how we repay them?

what if your breed of choice was in the spotlight for the same reason, would you argue the same point? its the dogs fault? would you let the media say your pet is bad because of its breed when your dog has never hurt anyone or been anything other than your best friend? would you suddenly decide your dog is bad because it is that specific breed and no longer care for it? of course you wouldnt.

check this out if you will, these pitbulls were forced to fight, now they have been rehabilitated and placed in loving homes. these dogs just want to be loved as much as any other dog.

http://www.badrap.org/rescue/video/vick/badrap_rr_022808.html

Richard   #3   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Breed bans have also been lifted in Germany.

Josh   #2   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Wow, I would think a "dog protection" group would have more sense than that. Dutch and other cities have stopped with the BSLs because THEY DO NOT WORK.

I hope NZ realizes this before banning even more dogs.

Brian Tepper   #1   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

That is nonsense! I am sick of the excuse of "its the owner not the breed". If Labs are so dangerous, then why dont you ever hear of a lab mauling anyone. Ill tell you why, bc it doesnt happen. They are great dogs. Is every Lab owner some kind of expert dog trainer? Of course not! Also, is every Pit Bull owner abusive, also no. The problem lies in the breed. Pit Bulls were bred for bull baiting and dog fighting and breeding works. Thats why retrievers will fetch, pointers will point, shepards may herd and Pit Bulls WILL fight. They are what we made them, strong aggressive dogs with the desire to fight. I have a dog and go to dog parks and other place with alot of dogs. Its always the Pit Bull that starts the fights and the ones you have to be carefull around. My dog was attcked by a Pit out of no where. He was lucky to escape with just a cut under his eye. I carry pepper spray with me now. If any of these visious Pit Bulls (that shouldnt be in public anyway) go after my dog again or me, they will be in for a big surprise. I think the ban is a waste of time. Those dogs are a menace to people and pets. They should go after the breeders and make it an illegal act to breed them altogether.

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