A warning against cannabis
By ROSEMARY MCLEOD - The Dominion Post
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OPINION: If there's a good side to the incident at Hospital Hill, it's that there are decent people in cynical times.
That goes for the people who kept an eye on each other, helped police, looked after elderly neighbours, and fed people's pets as the hours dragged on. It's reassuring that we still rise to the occasion.
Since everybody's an armchair expert on policing, though, there will inevitably be a downside. An intimation of that was the flat near the gunman where three kids refused to listen to police, and finally had to be arrested and taken into custody for their own good. They were charged with obstruction.
On the morning the siege began, the three flatmates were repeatedly told to go inside, by their own admission, but kept peeping over their gate to watch what was happening, putting themselves at risk as bullets flew by.
I guess it's what you'd expect from teenagers, who believe they're immortal and usually view police, not themselves, as public nuisances, but hopefully now realise how foolish they were.
They're not unique. A lot of kids their age have an attitude to police: it's a logical extension of resisting authority that starts with weary parents and teachers. It's police, after all, who make it hard for them to get drunk in public places, to buy and sell booze, to drink-drive, to have loud parties all weekend, and other necessities of life, such as urinating in doorways, or smashing bottles in the street.
It seldom occurs to them that police intervention is mostly for their own protection, just as their parents' attempts at imposing curfews and offering good advice are greeted with derision - or at best, meekly listened to, then blithely ignored once out of earshot.
Yet it's police who scrape their bodies off the road after accidents, who hunt the rapist who grabs the drunk girl staggering home from a party, who deal with gatecrashers intent on violence, and who have to deal, day after day, with stoned kids and their abuse.
Disliking police is a rite of passage. I was probably not much different from these kids at their age, for no particular reason other than dislike of authority, and it didn't help when I saw police behaving badly a few times.
That wasn't the case in Napier, in what should have been a routine drug bust, but there'll be plenty of people with a negative view about that. It happened, after all, just as the governor of California opened up the idea of looking at changing cannabis laws there.
Our cannabis advocates are an aggressive and humourless lot, and I expect they're muttering to each other that this siege would never have happened if only it was legal here.
OTHERS will pick up on the idea that drug raids are an invasion of privacy, as if police should give advance warning so people can tidy up and bake a batch of scones to welcome them.
They'll be less agitated about the man at the centre of the siege, Jan Molenaar, and his obsession with guns, and they'll be loath to link his cannabis use to his evident paranoia. But I'm not.
I've seen it too often. What would have been different last weekend if cannabis was legal? Would Molenaar have been a happy and well-adjusted individual, with a hobby no more sinister than keeping bantams?
Would the people who now profit from the drug trade quietly abandon it after legalisation? Would there be no black market trade? And would gang members turn suddenly benign, like the hippies of long ago who sat around being mellow and fatuous? I don't think so.
Molenaar is said to have hated both gangs and police, symbols of authority of vastly different kinds.
Gangs would have been both competition and threat, and police a constant legal threat. He was a looming disaster if either burst in on him.
There are men like him all over the country. They're not the kind who are ever likely to become legal operators, selling regulated, quality-controlled drugs, but dangerous, antisocial nutters, warnings against, rather than advertisements for, their supposedly benign drug of choice.
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I am wondering why the cops never mentioned the methamphetamine this guy was taking.. but no.. lets keepo quiet and show the world how bad cannibis is.
Congratulations, Rosemary. Your increasingly tenuous links from your pet peeves to news events puts you firmly on the list of idiots in the media.
Quote - Its the police who clean up young people etc when they are DRUNK!!! The girl gets raped when she is drunk. You take out the blackmarket of buying and selling pot its alot less harmful to society then what alcahol is. For example you put twenty people in a room and feed them alcahol a fight is bound to happen or someone will get hurt. You feed these twenty people lots of pot and they will laugh be coherent non aggressive and not cause the police any bother that night. Whenever u hear of a fatal crash on the news its alwalys alcahol that is involved not solely drugs!!! And its true if Canabis was legal the poor families affected by thsi hideous situation would not be grieveing!!!!
Not only was this article completely unresearched it was one sided and incorrect. I do not smoke drugs but can say that research has shown how it decreases any violent tendicies and not linked to the police dealing with "who have to deal, day after day, with stoned kids and their abuse". Have you confused alcohol with cannabis? How many abused wives are beaten after their husband smokes some weed? How many teens smoke weed and go for a destructive run into town to beat someone up? This doesn't even support the general image most people have of pot smokers so it is disappointing that Rosemary would say such things.
I know people at my school who do weed and i tell you that anit much of a problem compared to booze. Although weed is easier to obtain for minors than booze, when they find a person willing to sell alcohol to them, they by crates of it. Its not the drinking its how we are drinking. And id much rather do weed than tobacco, its healthier and less addictive. p.s i do not do any drugs or drink.
Mark #68
First question. Are you an idiot?
Answer - Yes.
Fact #1. Possessing cannabis is illegal.
Fact #2. If you are caught posessing cannabis you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law because it is the LAW.
Fact #3. It is not the police's job to decide who is above the law and who is not. They are there to enforce the current law and the current law says that possession of cannabis is illegal.
Fact #4. The taxpayers money to the police force is a sunk cost and therefore there is no waste of money when policing the LAW.
Fact #5. The only waste of tax payers money is when losers like you suggest that these criminals who possess cannabis shouldnt be arrested. Then some police officers who have forgoten their oath to uphold the law just sit around and do nothing. They are not paid to watch crime and do nothing.
Fact #6. You are an idiot.
Jan Molenaar was a ticking timebomb, not arguement from me on that one. But that's the only shread of logic in your story. He was the type of guy who would probably have gone nato if the cops had turned up simply to ask him to turn his stereo down. Cannabis is NOT the issue here, either for Jan or your average teenager. If it was, the only reason the police would have been retcent to enter Jan's home would be for fear of tripping over playstation consoles and pizza boxes. If you want to know why teenagers are so antisocial and hate authority then talk to the police, dont bother to ask teenagers themselves, they don't have a clue. All they know is 8% Diesel Bourbon is $10 a six pack and every text must be signed off with F.T.P. Alcohol is the demon here, that and lack of respect. The former is a product of oversupply, cheap pricing and clever marketing of rtd's and budget spirits, the latter as a direct result of political correctness gone mad in the form of the anti smacking bill, abolition of corporal punishment in schools and single parent families with no male role models. With all due respect Rosemary I suggest you get yourself a good DVD and a quarter pack from KFC, put the knives on and have a couple of spots, but lay off the wine, it's not good for you.
The first paragraph looked really promising. Here here I started to think...then you veered off and made it all about the weed. Pot smokers are not clogging up our A and E departments every Saturday night. Sure, smoking pot is not good for the mental health of a person like Molenaar, nor is any other chemical substance, especially alcohol. To use the situation to rail against the legalise marijuana campaign is ridiculous. If I hadn't seen your name I might think Michael Laws wrote the column.
Typical, ignorant, reactionary drivel. The author of this piece should be thoroughly ashamed at having pontificated on a subject she so obviously does not understand in even the most basic sense. The article is shot through with factual inaccuracy, logical fallacy and sprinkled with the odd downright lie. A truly shoddy standard of journalism.
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Most heavy pot smokers I have come across are fine if they are currently stoned. It is when they are not stoned and hanging out for their next spot that they tend to be very short fused and irrational, and have a low ability to cope with any form of stress.
This makes them bad neighbors, workmates, friends, and more importantly dangerous parents as far as their children are concerned, as parenting requires a high level of coping skills, something not associated with heavy pot smokers.
I must admit heavy drinkers also have a low ability to cope with stress when they are hungover, but they don't tend to explode and nut off at the first sign of stress as heavy pot smokers do.