The Plight of the Conchords

Last updated 07:41 06/05/2009

I finished watching season two of Flight of the Conchords the other week. It looks like they've wrapped it up - all the talk had been that the show would not continue on for too long and that two seasons would be it.

Good.

The group Flight of the Conchords is very talented, it would be disingenuous to say otherwise and they have had success overseas too - to many that is the important reason to like them!

Jemaine Clement has moved in to some movie acting roles. Bret McKenzie was in The Black Seeds, he made a pretty cool solo album under the name Video Kid and he turned a bit-part in The Lord of the Rings in to a cult-hit.

So both of the Conchords are talented and have other avenues to head in, head towards or head back to. And of course they can carry on touring and recording as the band Flight of the Conchords without having to have the TV show Flight of the Conchords.

But I am pleased it looks like there'll be no more television episodes because the joke really was wearing thin.

At times I thought season two had really stepped up a gear, the comedy seemed sharper and certainly it played to the strengths by utilising Arj Barker and Kristen Schaal - and of course Rhys Darby as "Murray".

It was nice to see the supporting characters and bit-parts receive lines in songs and help to move the basic premise on, but at times it really felt like this was also to cover for some sub-standard material; particularly the songs.

Musical comedy is tough. What is funny today won't be funny for long. Alice's Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie was probably side-splitting 40 years ago (I laughed when I first heard it about 20 years ago) but I doubt I could make it past the second chorus these days (could you?) And how does a talented song parodist like "Weird Al" Yankovic fare these days when the likes of Eminem is already sending himself - and the wider genre - up with his latest releases.

Every album of Em's features that comical first single and the too-pleased-with-itself video to go with it...it must be hard making it in the world of musical comedy.

And that is why I think FOTC has done so well; they have made it. And New Zealanders seem to also love the damn the man attitude that Clement and McKenzie had when TVNZ rejected them; when they built their name through hard slog and dedication to the cause and concept.

The truth is TVNZ rejecting them - and/or missing the window - was the best thing that happened to Flight of the Conchords/Flight of the Conchords.

The show, if produced locally, would have been a turkey. Not through the fault of McKenzie and Clement but through our own inabilities/insecurities to really give homegrown stuff the tick until it's seen to be doing well (or at least recognised) on some version of the world stage - and because TVNZ makes generally terrible television; especially locally produced comedy.

Arj Barker and Kristen Schaal are gold for the FOTC show. And there were some great cameos from comedians like Todd Barry too. What would we have here, Dai Henwood being "whacky" and an interchangeable local female comedian referring to her genitalia a lot?

There was one episode in season two of Flight of the Conchords where I didn't laugh at all. Not a chuckle, not a hint of a smile - and check out my profile pic, I like a good laugh! - and it was then that I was pleased to see that hopefully the Conchord brand would be saddling up and heading out on the ole dusty trail away from TV-land.

I liked the show. Mostly. Don't get me wrong. But it started to feel like the same joke over and over - and I know that the concept suggested that in many ways, as an overriding conceit, but it really started to seem thin-wallpaper thin. Yeah, that thin. And the songs. I come back to the songs. They didn't cut it. They weren't as good. The parodies were aimless and groundless, the hooks weren't there; it felt like the tunes were being written by committee - and so much of season one was based around songs that were close to a decade old.

They wrote the scenes to suit the songs, this time around it seemed like songs were being written to fit the scenes. But that's not actually the case, not always, anyway. Because, Conchords fans, if they go back to the Folk The World CD (released long before The Distant Future (EP) and the self-titled full length album) will spot a track called Petrov, Yelyena And Me. It's there from gigs recorded in 2002; but it's also there - in a version - on the final episode of season two of the TV show.

Anyway, mostly, it seemed like the songs were not as strong in season two. And whilst Flight of the Conchords and Flight of the Conchords was always as much about the comedy as the music you can't really have musical-comedy without good songs....unless you want to become Mrs Peacock.

My favourite Flight of the Conchords-related product was the BBC Radio Series on CD. Brilliant. Still rate that higher than the TV show. And I still think the duo, in the live format, in the live forum, is better than listening to studio songs (which are not that funny after a couple of listens). I found the self-titled album rather boring.

So, I wonder what they'll do next. Will they keep going without making TV? 

And what do you think about Flight of the Conchords? Best New Zealand comedy since Fred Dagg and Billy T. James? Not even close? Miles ahead? Or a second-rate Mrs Peacock?

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squire   #1   08:09 am May 06 2009

You are putting the black in seeds.

Kirsty   #2   08:41 am May 06 2009

I agree that it was time for FOTC to wrap up the TV show (the idea that they were struggling musos in NY trying to make it when actually... they had, was a bit toooo ironic), but I liked Season 2 as much as the first. I thought they did a great job with the songs. Like you say, musical comedy is tough, and I thought they delivered. The overall success of the show does owe a lot to Darby, Barker and Schaal though - they're comedy gold.

So yes - time to finish up, but I don't think they've anything to reproach themselves with, they acquitted themselves just fine in Season 2.

Will be interesting to see what they do now.

Danny   #3   08:46 am May 06 2009

I loved it, but like yourself, am glad to see it finish before it really does become a cliche. And I know its a cliche in itself, but the best series all seem to have 2 series, then call it quits. Keep us wanting more maybe. I listened to the cd, but only once or twice. But arent all comedy albums like that? I think they should be applauded, not for the success, but for the content. And of course, for bringing the character of Murray into our lives! I wouldn't say they are up there with John Clarke, but certainly funnier than Billy T. TVNZ would have added canned laughter, and drafted in David McPhail to help write it of course!

James   #4   08:51 am May 06 2009

I kind of, but not really in some ways, agree with you. If anything their live show and TV series has shown me - it is that they are probably comedians first, musicians second. The second series was immensely better set up in terms of comedy in my eyes, but as you said, the music dragged a bit. I'm glad they're canning it in though, leaving behind a tight legacy.

The phenomenon for me is best viewed from a far. Here we are parochial defenders of our heroes; but we oversell the Conchords success. In the States, Canada etc. they have a medium sized, slightly adoring cult fanbase who appreciated them not because of the "New Zealand" comedy angle, but because it is well written and smart. Same thing I guess, but it made me appreciate their impact outside of the obsessive, claustrophic New Zealand promotion of all that comes from itself in the name of patriotism.

H   #5   09:25 am May 06 2009

I have to agree with James #4 - with the exception of the occasional gem, like the Friends song and the bizarre Korean karaoke interlude - the music has taken a back seat to the comedy in this series. It was always going to be harder to sustain the musical element once they run out of old songs to re-purpose, and it is definitely the right time to wrap up the show.

Hopefully FOTC will take a bit of a break after the rigours of the TV show and US tour and then come together in a more relaxed fashion in a couple of years and allow new songs to coalesce gradually, to avoid some of the more forced efforts from this season. I don't necessarily think a continuation of the TV show is a good idea, but would love to see them tour again with new material.

Based on the viral marketing to date, I am excited about seeing Jemaine Clement's turn as a pretentious sci-fi writer in Gentlemen Broncos and wonder if he will have the comedy chops to cross over into more consistent film work. On the basis of his amateurish if entertaining work in the series, I suspect Bret won't be inundated with film roles - lets just hope he doesn't rejoin the Black Seeds.

An Australian   #6   09:31 am May 06 2009

I have to say I listen to the FOTC first series album at least once a week, now we listen to a rip of the music from S2 just as often and will do so until the studio recording is released (Which was supposed to be in April). I think 'Sugar Lumps', 'Carol Brown' 'Too Many Dicks' were some of the best songs of both the series. Yes I noticed they snuck a couple of the old songs into S2. I usually have at least one Conchords song on repeat in my head! I also always found the episodes were much funnier the second time you watched them. I do agree though, it's probably best they don't do a S3 although I'd be gagging to watch it if they ever did.

Nikki   #7   09:40 am May 06 2009

I LOVE Flight of the Conchords.

I find it hard to compare them to Fred Dagg and Billy T. I guess they were similar in that they could poke fun at themselves and didn't mind looking silly if it made good comedy. But then I think kiwis in general are good at that.

You make a good point about them being rejected by TVNZ. We don't seem geared up that well to promote ourselves. Any decent talent seems to have to live overseas to get anywhere. That's a bit of a shame.

GOB   #8   09:57 am May 06 2009

I found the second season to be stronger than the first, both the comedy and musically. I was myself lying on the floor in tears with my friends watching some of the episodes, and that doesn't happen often... Office UK is the only TV comedy with the same effect that I can think of right now, and that series also ended after two seasons leaving us wanting more while Office US, which sucks in comparision, goes on forever.

If you can't see the quality of the songs or the hilarity of the subtle jokes in FOTC I feel a bit sorry for you, maybe you had a tough day at work if you couldn't even let a single chuckle out? Well, at least you have this fine reviewer job (assuming you do you get paid for it) where you can vent your bitterness... look at everything from the bright side, mate.

I, too, feel it's a good thing they're taking a break now anyway before maybe eventually doing a third season. It's always best to quit while you're ahead.

paul   #9   10:21 am May 06 2009

Weird Al is still going strong - and is monumentally successful (there's always his Polka album catalog to fall back on too).

It is great to see Mathers back though - looking leaner after the whole rehab thing - but Eminem is the only rapper I've ever found to be remotely palatable.

Scott   #10   10:26 am May 06 2009

I'm of the view that any music written and performed specifically for comedy is only funny the first time through. After that, you've got the joke and it gets a bit awkward.

FotC are great musicians and song writers, as well as gifted comedians, so their songs manage to transcend that - slightly. I can give them perhaps two listens, maybe three?

And good on them for moving on before it gets too old. I'm looking forward to what they do in the future, individual or as the comedy duo.


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