Is local TV providing a reason to download?

Last updated 08:00 06/09/2010

There's something I've been meaning to ask you guys. I did a post about sci-fi show Fringe which focused on a running theme on the show. But after the post went online, it became apparent that TVNZ may have pulled Fringe from the lineup without warning viewers. The only mention I noticed after last Tuesday's episode was a quick voiceover saying "Fringe takes a week off next week". I called TVNZ, who confirmed the rumour - Fringe was gone until 2011 and that was that.

Readers here were understandably angry. One, named westie12, wrote "Maybe it's TVNZ with the daddy issues - as they don't give a damn for the viewers", while another named lisa simply wrote "TVNZ sucks."

chuckIn addition to the anger over the sudden dropping of the show, readers pointed out that the series was already months behind and that they had already downloaded and watched it. It's understandable, really, since last week's episode of Fringe aired in the USA on November 12, 2009, - nearly 10 months ago!

It's not the only show on NZ television that is lagging behind.

Last week's episode of Californication aired in October 2009. Last Wednesday featured an episode of Castle from April 2009, and an episode of Chuck from January this year. Tonight's episode of Dollhouse is even older, having aired in the US back in February 2009. British shows aren't exempt either: last Thursday's episode of Survivors was aired in the UK back in December 2008.

So my question for you is this:

Is the massive delay in getting hold of these shows providing an incentive for people in smaller countries, like New Zealand, to download shows before they ever hit our shores?

Not only is the delay causing problems for viewers who want to watch quality television, forcing them to turn to the internet to get their fill, but - call me crazy - it seems like the widespread opinion is that downloading television shows isn't as "wrong", either morally or legally, as downloading films or music.

When talking to friends, this certainly seems to be the common stance. Most feel that downloading a TV show, or acquiring episodes from friends, isn't actually bad since we effectively get the shows free on local television. The only real theft, as far as they're concerned, is the channel's loss of earnings from advertising - which they don't really care about anyway.

Watching TV locally has its benefits. More and more shows are being broadcast in high definition, giving picture quality that can be impractical for downloading; high-def files online can be up to five times the size of standard definition files. Plus, more and more shows are being stashed online on sites like OnDemand, allowing viewers to catch up at their own convenience.

However, it just doesn't seem like enough to change viewers' minds on the downloading issue.

Why do you think downloading television shows might not be as "wrong" as downloading movies or music? What TV shows, if any, do you download, and why?

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H   #1   08:14 am Sep 06 2010

Constantly changing the times of shows and not previewing them properly pushed me to the end of my limits back when they mucked around with Stargate SG1. Some say there is a project of television that is free which can help...........

Jon   #2   08:18 am Sep 06 2010

After TV3's shoddy treatment of Top Chef, I resorted to downloading it, and am now watching it the day after it airs in the States, in HD without adverts. I appreciate TV companies cannot show programmes at the same time as overseas, but to stop shows halfway through with no warning to the viewer unless you delve deep into their discussion forums. Newsgroups make it so easy now to find shows, the TV companies are going to have to remember that at the end of the day they are there FOR us, and we like to know what's going on!

Jim   #3   08:28 am Sep 06 2010

Good post - about time this topic is debated. I think the current model is outdated and on the way out the door. With the fiber to the door project content delivery will be much easier, creating an opportunity for media companies to either fill or try to patch over. I would be happy to pay a flat fee for access to any TV show I want, with full back catalog available and up-to date content (it's actually really brilliant to watch a Christmas TV special AT Christmas time). If that seems too hard and unreasonable it's what I have right now through d/l, why should the legitimate providers drag their heels so much?

In my house we regularly d/l, all well before they air on NZ TV.

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Nic   #4   08:29 am Sep 06 2010

I agree completely. Also we miss out on shows such as Entourage and How to make it in America so the only way to get them is through the internet - or wait for them to come out on DVD, which takes ages and is expensive!

Alex   #5   08:35 am Sep 06 2010

I'll tell you a quick story from about 10 years ago. I can't remember which channel was which, but the players were TV3 and TVNZ channel 2. I was watching the first season of Alias on the telly. Then it was announced that the second season would be on the other channel. So, what did the channel that was screening season one do?

They stopped screening with 4 episodes left. As the other channel didn't have season one rights, they couldn't screen them, so there was no way other than downloading to see those 4 episodes in NZ prior to DVD release (which I purchased I might add).

That was when I lost my faith in broadcast networks, and they seem to remind me every now and then that they haven't changed since then.

MillyS   #6   08:36 am Sep 06 2010

Given last week's debacle re TVNZ stopping the screening of Fringe halfway through series 2 with zero explanation... I can now say despite avoiding downloading tv shows in the past, bring it on...

Jeremy   #7   08:38 am Sep 06 2010

Just on the DL, I DL most overseas TV, and I bought a Tivo to combat the bizarre scheduling of kiwi programming. It's also great to record This is not my My Life and dispense with the TEN MILLION ad breaks they have :-)

GlassyEyed   #8   08:40 am Sep 06 2010

It's no wonder everybody just downloads or watches online at slightly shady sites based in the Cocos Islands. TVNZ are dragging the chain on a bunch of great shows which are well into second and third seasons, and will probably never show them, or if they do will broadcast at 3.00am, get the episodes out of order, and skip showing the finales. And that's for the lucky few who can actually get broadcast TV without needing a Sky subscription. None of my last 3 houses have had any TV reception whatsoever, and I'm in the middle of Wellington for chrissakes. TVNZ are just an irrelevancy, irritant and hindrance. Bring on a reasonably priced legal download option like Netflix or iTunes, and I'll be there.

Julia   #9   08:43 am Sep 06 2010

I definately agree that it takes too long for NZ to get most american shows. And with so many shows having cliffhangers and spoilers all over the internet, I sux to have to wait for shows!

Label   #10   08:50 am Sep 06 2010

Totally legit I reckon. We get stuffed around so much by the TV broadcasters in NZ. Look at how badly TVNZ butchered The Pacific.


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