TV talent shows - and their value to the music industry - has been a point of debate for years.
Foo Fighters lead singer Dave Grohl's point of view is very clear: they're not much chop.
"I don't want my kid to think that the only way you can be a musician is to stand in line at a song contest audition," Grohl told US media this week. "And then wind up having a bazillionaire tell you if you're not a good singer."
"To me, that's not what music's about," he said.
Grohl is not the first musician to hit back at the TV talent show genre, for either its failure to deliver lasting talent, or for its shortcomings in nurturing emerging artists while exploiting them for television entertainment.
Sir Elton John famously said TV pop competitions had "killed talent", while Sting, the former frontman of The Police, has described The X-Factor as "appalling".
And former Take That frontman Robbie Williams said TV talent shows were cruel. "They f--- with people's lives for entertainment," Williams said.
It is also not the first time Grohl has spoken out about TV talent shows.
In a 2013 interview with the British music newspaper NME, Grohl said he disliked TV talent shows because "people are judged so harshly by ... musicians that hardly even play an instrument on their own ... albums."
People "should feel encouraged to be themselves," he said.
"If my daughter walked up onstage and sang her heart out and some ... billionaire looked at her and said, 'no, I'm sorry you're not any good,' I'd ... throttle that person, I swear to God," he said, "Who the f-- are you to say what's good or bad?"
Grohl was speaking this week to US media at the annual Television Critics Association "press tour".
He was there to promote his new HBO series, Foo Fighters: Sonic Highways.
Grohl said he hoped the upcoming series, which follows the band as they record music on a multi-city tour, would serve as an inspiration for emerging artists.
"Let's go to tiny studios all over the country, tell the story of music from that city. What is it about that each one of these cities that influences the music that comes from there?" he said.
- Sydney Morning Herald