Don't call me baby

Last updated 10:11 18/01/2010

At 6am yesterday I was fast asleep and dreaming, which is pretty much what I imagine most people would have been doing at that time.  Unfortunately I was wrenched from my cosy cocoon of slumber by an inexplicable ringing.  I was so confused that as I picked up the offending object (which of course was my phone), I wasn't sure what to do with it.  I answered the call and, like an extraterrestrial unfamiliar with human technology, I dumbly said nothing for a second or two before realising that I was supposed to utter some kind of greeting. 

That's MISS Sweetie to you.Look, I'm not at my sharpest upon first waking.  I'm sure I'm a good 20 to 30 IQ points dumber until after breakfast and at six in the morning I'm pretty much down to my instinct-driven "lizard brain", my medulla oblongata (one of my favourite words) which does not allow for higher-level reasoning, communication, fine motor skills or Yahtzee.

So, as I said, eventually I got around to answering the phone with an eloquent "hello", which was echoed by a male voice which then put the conversational ball back in my court...so I went with "hello" again as this was the only word I could think of and I was certainly not capable of something as complex as "and what can I do for you?"

"Can I speak to Jonathan?" said the dream assassin, who I was now realising had an American accent.

Somehow my lizard brain managed to remember that I don't know anyone named Jonathan and dredged up an appropriate phrase from somewhere in the reservoir of my mind.

"No, you've got the wrong number," is what I went with. Blunt, short but perfectly easy to understand.

"Jonathan...Tyree" he repeated, as if including the last name might jog my memory enough that I would remember that I LIVE with a guy named Jonathan, we're married actually and we have three children. How stupid of me to have forgotten!  But I suppose if you're in the habit of calling people at that hour of the morning then you're used to dealing with the "lizard brain effect" wherein such lapses of memory can perhaps occur.

"No, you've got the wrong number," I in turn repeated, and I fancy it was with a tone of voice that said "if punching you in the face was an iPhone app, I'd totally be doing that right now".

Finally satisfied that the mysterious Jonathan was not to be found at my house in the pre-dawn darkness, my new friend signed off with "OK, sorry about that, sweetie."

Sweetie? Sweetie? Who was this impertinent American waking me up at sparrow fart on a Sunday and calling me "sweetie"?  The iPhone app I was looking for upgraded to "gunning you down with an AK47".

Obviously some of my reaction was down to my begrudging wakefulness, which as it happens led to my bladder begging for attention which in turn led to me getting out of bed, rather adding insult to injury. Speaking of injury, Saturday's exertions at the gym had had a rather detrimental effect and I discovered upon arising that all the muscles in my body had died peacefully in their sleep and were in an advanced state of rigor mortis.

But back to the inappropriate sweetie.  Once I'd had a bit more sleep I started to wonder if I was being unnecessarily affronted and tried to think of other instances where I'd been referred to in such terms and whether it had bothered me.

An East End geezer I used to know called Trev would often call me "Treacle" and I found it rather endearing. A former boss had a habit of calling everyone, including me, "petal" or "flower" and I didn't mind that, but teenage retail assistants who call you "hun" irritate me a little and I've been known to snort derisively at blog commenters who use the term in their responses, usually because they're disagreeing with me at the time and wish to be condescending.  So, as with most things I think this is about context.

I'm of the opinion that if you know me a "darling", "sweetie" or "babe" is probably okay, but if you're a generation younger than me, or a stranger, or both then it's probably going to get on my wick a bit.  There's a reason that a well-aimed "sweetheart" can be used as artillery in conversational warfare. It effectively puts someone in their place by telling them that you don't really have much in the way of respect for them.  Where someone knows you well it indicates a fondness and familiarity.  The tricky bit comes where people confuse informality with intimacy (or in the case of my phone friend, 6 o'clock in the morning with "a reasonable hour") and this can be unintentionally jarring.

So where do you stand on this?  At what point to find this kind of familiarity annoying?  Is there any difference between a member of the opposite sex calling you "sweetie", and someone of the same sex using this or a similar word?  As a woman I'm not sure how often men are addressed this way.  If you're a bloke does it bother you, cupcake?

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Thalia   #1   10:22 am Jan 18 2010

I don't really like pet names.. it smacks of assumed cretinism and mockery.. sort of a carjoling of spirits that says I know you're not very bright and I am going to humour you with stupid names that are borderline endearments.

I also hate people who like to call or text when sane people should be sleeping. Between the hours of 1 and 6am.. even six is not a reasonable hour on the weekend I might forgive on a weekday because I am up at that time.

JCC   #2   10:35 am Jan 18 2010

Pet names are only used for the Mr and vice versa. Everyone else either has a nickname (eg family) or a proper name. I will tolerate being called 'love', by a certain generation of men, but anything else is just plain weird. I recently have found myself clearly classed as 'old' by many retail assistants as i get 'ma'am'! I know its supposed to be respectful but it makes me feel like i should have a zimmer frame, or be the queen or something!

n   #3   10:38 am Jan 18 2010

Went to a Bunnings store with my partner and a shop attendent there called me 'little miss' - he was younger than me...

Normally it would have annoyed me but you could see he was a tad simple (not being rude, simply true) though also the BEST sales assistant ever - really Mitre 10 mega should send their staff to Bunnings for training - anyway so wasn't annoyed and infact totally flattered by it (at 27 do you expect to be called 'little miss'? Its sooo much nicer than 'mamm') actually put a smile on my face for rest of day *grin*

JeM   #4   10:43 am Jan 18 2010

Good for you. I would have answered with an "F OFF" followed by the dial tone.

Pet names are weird when you don't know the person, and can be annoying when you do know the person and don't know how to tell them that "Jemmy Wemmy" just isn't cute. I particularly hate the "sweetie/babe/darling" when it's a retail assistant: "Can I help you find your size sweetie?" is weird when it's coming from a chick younger than me. I will let it go if the shop asst is over 60.

S   #5   10:51 am Jan 18 2010

Was it an NZ number that called or did lizard brain not think to check? If not, could explain the insanity of being awake at 6am (which would, of course, not be 6am wherever they are).

I had a shop assistant call me 'huns' once. I was tempted to ask if I looked like a hoarde of barbarians marauding across the plains of Eurasia but decided it was funnier to leave that image in my head...

For some reason, the guys who call everyone (male and female) 'mate' annoy me far more than people who use dear or sweetheart *shrugs*

Aj   #6   10:52 am Jan 18 2010

I absolutely detest when strangers call me by pet names. I work for my local council, often on front counter or even on the phone you get pet names from strangers... ick! Also hate beyond belief the "Good girl" you often get from older men, patronising b*stards! As for people who call at ungodly hours, they deserve to suffer a pain worse than death.

Argh! Stupid Monday morning grumpiness!

LC   #7   10:54 am Jan 18 2010

I call everyone I am close to (and some people I'm not), babes, babe, sweets, doll, hun, chicky, the list goes on. But not people who are more than five years older, unless they are close friends/family. I I don't think anyone minds....But when I am on the booze it doesn't matter who you are, chances are I will call you babe. It can get very confusing, as when I shout down the table/room/whatever, "babe can you pass me my phone?" everyone responds. But my vocab is severely limited when drunk so it is handy to have one name for everyone :).

Davo   #8   11:02 am Jan 18 2010

I know what you mean. I don't like being called "mate", or "buddy", or "pal" etc by anyone other than friends and family. Even then, I am not thrilled with it, but understand where it comes from. For the reason i never use those phrases, unless it really is a "mate" etc. As for calling a woman "love" or "sweetheart" or anything like that, I don't think it should be done, unless you are her husband/lover or father. Although i can see how it can be endearing when used correctly, as in the case of your East End friend. As for getting a call at 6am? I have no sympathy for you at all sorry....your cellphone does have an off switch you know! I turn mine off when i go to bed, and turn it on when i wake up.....pretty simple really.

Cat   #9   11:03 am Jan 18 2010

I don't really mind the sweeties/lovey and whatnots. It's the "mate" I can't stand, when it's from someone I don't know from Adam.

On a completely different note, I am back at work after a month off and I am a little depressed, to say the least. Every time I type 2010 onto a document, I keep hearing the theme to "2010: A Space Odyssey" in my head. This is going to be a verrrrry loooong year ...

MsM   #10   11:06 am Jan 18 2010

I think you've summed it up pretty nicely there. The guy at the BP in Papanui calls me 'love' every time I get petrol there and I find it a bit odd. Basically if we haven't made physical contact in the form of a hug or kiss then you don't know me well enough to call me anything other than my name.


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