if you look like a dog...walk like a dog....bark like a dog....guess wot???.....YOUR A DOG

the council must define the word 'gang'..you can not assume a person is a member of a 'gang' when there is no definition of the word, and therefore no proof can be given that the person is adhering to the definition..for example, if colours and insignia are all defined as being 'gang' related,then the colour blue and the insignia of the nz police would be in effect, 'gang' related!.arrest me officer!

The bylaw may well be passed by council, but if it is enforcable may be a totally different question. I hope the HAMC fight the legality of the bylaw, all the way to the High Court and have it overturned. It will not be the first time a council have introduced a crazy law, and then had it ditched, at the rate payers expense.

This whole bylaw is totaly rediculous. Government telling people what they can wear, whats next , "Dictating" what we can say perhaps ? Think we have to side with good ol Ben Franklin on this one, and maybe punish the fools wasting taxpayer funds to come up with a totaly unconstitutional, un-enforceable law. Dont they have something better to do ? this is not only targeted at the Hells Angels, but at any MotorCycle club or aparnetly any groups a jacket with an insignia on the back

"Whanganui MP Chester Borrows, who sponsored the anti-gang patch bill allowing the bylaw, said he was confident it was legally sound. The gang should have made a submission during the select committee process"

My bet is that they were not invited to comment for obvious reasons

Aaron #30 you talk about making membership of these gangs illegal, well maybe its time New Zealand to look at what South Australia have done, read this story http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/south-australia-to-ban-bikie-gangs/2007/11/20/1195321762225.html from 20 November 2007 about a proposal to bring in a law effectively classifying these gangs as urban terrorists, I'm not sure what's the status of this law as I live in QLD but it at the time certainly was a gutsy proposal, something politicians are not normally noted for, a story I do remember from QLD from a number of years ago was that the QLD police got word that several MC gangs were heading for the Sunshine Coast for a big meet and the police basically said publicly that they would be waiting at the Coolangatta border for them, not sure if they ever came or not

Bob #10 Wakeup to yourself - they are a bike club not a street gang

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I,NOT BEING A MEMBER,WALKED AROUND TOWN WITH A HELL'S ANGELS PATCH ON MY BACK.I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD ASK FOR IT BACK.

watch out super-grans..beta not patch up

I would be willing to stake a lot on the fact that most if not nearly all of the people voting in favour of the title of a 'gang' truly have no idea what honestly goes on and what these clubs are like. The ignorance of some people is disgusting. I wont deny that there are SOME members in SOME clubs that MAY do some questionable things, and it seems that the media jump at any chance to thrust this into the spotlight. But for every bad member, the general public just doesn't understand there is many more good members. Members that work in YOUR community, making YOUR life more convenient.

to those members of the hells angels group reading this. you have jnonods full support in the wearing of your gang i mean group insignia. hope your appeal goes well, if your ever in hamilton you can stayy at our place. we can have bacon,