Council to vote for city-wide booze ban
BY DAVE BURGESS
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Wellington city councillors will vote today in favour of a city-wide liquor ban, making the capital the first main centre to have a total ban.
It would mean anyone caught carrying opened liquor in a public place would be breaking the bylaw and could be arrested.
It could be in place by June.
A civil liberty group says the move smacks of "a big brother society" and will turn law-abiding citizens into criminals.
But the public will get the chance to have their say on the plan as part of a rigorous consultation process.
The ban will be debated today by Wellington city councillors and mayor Kerry Prendergast who support the proposal recommended by council officers.
It also has backing from police who say a city-wide ban would be easier to enforce than having separate bans in trouble hotspots.
A majority of councillors told The Dominion Post they were in favour of letting the public have a say on whether the ban should cover the entire city.
Council officers estimate that extra alcohol ban signs would cost up to $200,000.
The city-wide proposal came after Newtown residents called for a ban in their suburb to curb public drinking.
Inspector Simon Perry of Wellington said a Newtown-only ban was unworkable.
"There is a very strong possibility that there will be some sort of displacement – that is people drinking in the Newtown area will move to areas without a ban where they can drink."
Alcohol was responsible for a third of crime dealt with by police and cutting consumption would reduce crime, he said. However, he accepted that even people drinking responsibly in public places, such as at picnics in parks, on beaches and in the green belt, would now be acting unlawfully.
"The police's biggest power is one of discretion and how we apply the law. I don't think we will see [those sorts of offenders] appearing in Wellington District Court."
Ms Prendergast said she had faith in the police to enforce the proposed ban.
"It is a very small percentage of people who drink on the streets and it is a very big blanket ban to put in place but I trust the police will use their discretion.
"The sorts of behaviours we see and the effects of it – the broken bottles, the vomiting, the urinating, the defecating, particularly in our parks – are just not on."
Council for Civil Liberties spokesman Michael Bott said a blanket ban was out of proportion to the public drinking problem.
"It is complete overkill. It penalises the poor, particularly the homeless, and is a way for law-abiding New Zealanders to end up with a criminal record. It has all the hallmarks of a big brother society."
Wellington's Hospitality Association branch president Adam Cunningham said the ban was appropriate and would not affect hospitality businesses.
How The Ban Would Work
Carrying opened liquor in public would breach the ban Police request ban-breakers to empty their alcohol or leave the area If they refuse, they will be arrested If they do as asked but break the ban again on the same day, they will be arrested Vehicles in the ban-zone can be searched by police
Q&A
What happens if I open a bottle of wine at a picnic?
You could be arrested but police say that is highly unlikely as long as you are drinking responsibly.
Am I safe drinking on my front lawn or porch?
Yes. That is private property.
Does the bylaw affect garden bars and outside areas at pubs?
No. Those areas are covered by liquor licences held by each pub.
What happens if I walk on to the footpath outside a bar with a drink to have a cigarette?
If the area is not covered by a bar's liquor licence, then you could be arrested.
What events will be exempt?
None but the council would be able to issue temporary liquor licences for outdoor venues, for example, in a marquee in Waitangi Park.
What Next
March 18 – Draft proposal presented to council committee
March 25 – Approval in principle by the full council
March 30 – Public consultation period opens
April 30 – Written submission period closes
May 13 – Oral submissions heard
June 3 – Report back to council committee
June 25 – Council votes on the proposal
- © Fairfax NZ News
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I guess all the people complaining about being arrested for having wine at a picnic missed these 2 points - "What happens if I open a bottle of wine at a picnic? You could be arrested but police say that is highly unlikely as long as you are drinking responsibly" and "What events will be exempt? None but the council would be able to issue temporary liquor licences for outdoor venues, for example, in a marquee in Waitangi Park. "
A total ban is yet again a overreative approach to a minority problem. Police should police the resulting behaviour not the drinking. I have in the past enjoyed a couple of beers while sitting on the beach at Oriental Bay, or having a beer or wine at a park/picnic/barbecue, but that doesn't mean I go and abuse people or urinate or or throw up everywhere, this is called responsible drinking. Police need to concentrate on the trouble makers not law abiding citizens (nanny state extended I say).
I fully support the ban. While I enjoy a glass of wine while watching concerts at the botanic gardens, I would happily trade it for orange juice if it helped cleainging up the streets and public places of drunks and reckless youths.
RE: James #5, that is on of the most intelligent comments I have ever read. But will banning the rugby sevens and AC/DC will solve Wellingtons litter problems, drinking problems, New Zealands drinking culture, or the worlds? Why not sue AC/DC or the IRB for all alcohol related expences incured worldwide? Or were you just being facesious?
What a farce. Take the concerts at the botanical gardens every summer: dozens of people take wine and beer along with picnics, without trouble, including families with children. I doubt it will change next summer. So the police will either have to arrest all those people, in front of children and at one of Wellington's most peaceful and celebrated summer events (put on by the council themselves), or more likely NOT arrest anyone and show that it isn't a blanket ban after all.
If Newtown has a anti-social problem related to alcohol, let the council extend the zone to Newtown and the police can arrest people who are actually causing trouble. A blanket ban on the whole city will criminalise ordinary people causing no trouble and be impossible to enforce.
Great Idea. As usual the do gooders think that all NZ will be locked up. what this law I guess is intended to do is stop the slobs and rif-raf from taking over our parks and public areas. It will/should give the police power to remove the drunk from areas where sober people (like myself)may like to walk or enjoy the open spaces with out having to walk through vomit and be abused by these groups of scum Take a look at the american rules that have been in place for years. You do not see drunk groups of youths over there like we allow here.
So what's going happen to gardens magic? Some of the appeal for this is to be able to sit down outside enjoying a picnic with a glass of wine/beer whilst listening to the music.
What ever the police say, if it is illegal to drink in a public place, drinking at an outdoor picnic is illegal, so you can and will be arrested. The police have shown that they have little discretion when it comes to policing the law!
Once again the few will ruin it for the majority!
Just get rid of the sevens and ac/dc, after those two events there was more vomit and broken bottles on the street while heading to work than i have ever seen before.
Not that long ago, the Police Offences Act made it an offence to drink alcohol in public places, and the police did not abuse their authority by locking everyone up, but they could make drunks empty their bottles once found. One government or other removed that offence when the Summary Offences Act came in. Since then, we've had more alcohol-fuelled incidents in public than ever before. I think Wellington is on the right track, but a government with guts should bring back the nation-wide ban on consuming alcohol in any public place without a permit. This country is flooded in booze after dark, lets get real, keep the drinking in enclosed or permitted places.
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I'm a bit confused by this - "Vehicles in the ban-zone can be searched by police" and "Am I safe drinking on my front lawn or porch? Yes. That is private property." Last I heard, my personal car is my private property which makes the 2 sentences from the article very contradictory.