Brian Lochore: Political correctness 'destroying' NZ
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The country is being "destroyed" by political correctness, according to rugby great Sir Brian Lochore.
Sir Brian, who was speaking at a breakfast hosted by educators Parents Inc yesterday, urged fathers to let their children take risks – but to also impose consequences if rules were broken, The New Zealand Herald reported.
Sir Brian, who captained the All Blacks from 1966 to 1970, said New Zealand was becoming too politically correct.
"We are living in a PC world which is destroying us, where you actually can't put the hard word on people when they have digressed and committed bad blunders," he said.
He said his daughters went to a rugby game at three weeks old, and later played in the mud while their dad downed a jug in the bar after a game.
"In the evenings we went to the rugby parties with the kids, who slept in the back of the car. We can't do that any more because we haven't got rid of the perpetrators that actually destroy our society."
He said he trusted his friends to discipline his children and they trusted him to discipline theirs.
"My friends were my children's role models and I was my friends' children's role model," he said.
"The one thing I believe is important in life is respect. They respected authority, they respected teachers, I respected the teachers. We lack a great deal of respect for authority nowadays, there's always someone protesting."
Sir Brian admitted to smacking his children, "but I've never hit them".
"Yes, I smacked other people's children, but I never hit them. But we are not allowed to do that any more in this PC world."
- NZPA
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I grew up in an area where you know the difference between a smack and a hit.
I was smacked - disciplined (a consequence). My mates on the coast got a hit (normal, regular, and life). Some elevated the hitting and took it to their gangs, jail and families.
The difference between Hit and smack.
Good on you Sir Brian - it takes a Legend for the Nation to stand up and listen to talk on PC. It is your grand children and great grand children that will suffer from the PC world unless we sort it out now.
The difference Ted is one is done in love and the other in anger - look at Sweden mate - they did the same thing - changed the law and their society turned to crap! - now they are desperate to change it back - and by the way what the hell was wrong with the way things were 30 yrs ago??- if we could have a society that is even a mere shadow the way it was then - we wouldn't even have to reply to PC mindsets like yours- because they wouldn't exist!!
Much about what Brian has said I agree with. I believe PC is a curse and has robbed good people of the fun of being just that, good people. The grim reality these days is that there are preditors out there and we do have to be more protective and responsible for our children. With the weight of publicity that goes with this topic it does make some people border on hysteria. Are they wrong? of course not and Brian and his wife werent either.
Laurie
Very eloquent but what a load of twaddle. Sir Brian is simply pointing out that we have had a long period of soft cock, left wing, text book liberalism which is patently not working. He is talking about the real world where there are consequences for your actions, not one where everything is the fault of everyone else. Consultants do the work and no one takes the blame for anything they do wrong. It is creating a dangerous society where people feel they are entitled to anything they want and will do anything they can to get it without thought for the effect on others. That is not the real world - it is why our society is struggling morally, many of our young are disenfranchised. It is a generation created by the one between Sir Brian and the present day, a completely selfish generation born in the 60's and 70's whose offspring have been given no direction. Whose young have been taught they are entitled to have everything they want. If they do wrong it is not their fault. The old days may have been too extreme the other way but the swing away has gone too far.
I must say I read with pleasure Brian Lochores comments, I could not agree more with him. To hear him talk about doing the things kids used to be able to do, no doubt safety and making sure the kids were safe wherever they were was just as important 40 years ago as it is today. But 40 years ago common sense applied not a law.
I am heartened to see more than a few kiwis not supporting Mr Lochore's comments.As usual the verbally aggressive anti-PC/marxists have weighed in with the McCarthy-ish smear tactics... "poofters" "lesbian mafia" "softies" etc.
Here's the thing...there is a goodly and growing number of New Zealanders that refuse to be cowed or intimidated into submission by these right wing culture-revisionists.
Sorry righties...your well-practised techniques of smearing, belittling, ridiculing and patronising New Zealanders are wearing thin, and some of us have never lost our voices
I am heartened to see more than a few kiwis supporting Mr Lochore's comments.As usual the verbally aggressive PC/marxists have weighed in with the Trotskyite smear tactics... "redneck underbelly" "crypto -fascist" "grumpy old men" etc.
Here's the thing...there is a goodly and growing number of New Zealanders that refuse to be cowed or intimidated into submission by these left wing culture-distorters.
Sorry lefties...your well-practised techniques of smearing, belittling, ridiculing and patronising New Zealanders are wearing thin and some of us have found our voices again.
Let me get this straight:
NZ is being destroyed because people who respect authority are no longer allowed to take vigilante action against those who may have transgressed, parents can't leave their kids unsupervised while they get pissed, we can no longer physically "discipline" our & others' children, and too many people are protesting.
It's a disgrace I tell you!
You commenters on here need to take a long hard look at yourselves? If you think that blaming minorites for a bad time that the country is going through then you are treading a dangerous path...
(want to know what I mean, just rephrase your sentences - strike out gays/women/hippies/liberals/woofters/youg punks with jews/blacks/communists) We are all in this together. We are all people, black, white, rich, poor, gay, straight, I dont think that your sexuality race, income or gender should matter, its what you are as a person. We have come a long way since Brian Lochore's "Good Old Days", where the PC-ness of Men drinking out in the pub, women in the home, kids with their mouths shut, Maori on the marae and gays in the closet ruled supreme, and if anyone strayed out of line, they got the thrashing of a lifetime...(yes violence was prevalent then, only it was a tool used to enforce the PC-ness of drab authortarianism)...anf of course, if you didnt play rugby or were a bit weedy, you got made fun of and were made to feel like crap and drive you to suicide....
New Zealanders fought against facism to a man. The Maori Battalion almost single-handedly stemmed Rommel's drive into Egypt in 1942. We lost 1000+ men at Monte Cassino, we inflicted such heavy losses on Hitler's paratroops at Crete that he never used them in the war again. Yet, in the comments I read above I see a warped form of crypto-facism that can only lie in the foul depths of New Zealand's redneck underbelly. You see people, there is a dark side to the New Zealand ethos. We are tolerant and easy-going, kind and good to our fellow-man, but in a second, we can turn on each other....my god where is this going, you may ask....
Well, I will tell you.....why didnt Brian Lochore stress the importance of sport as a way to build self confidence, disipline and co-ordination? Why didnt he emphasise that sport offers our young people hope and a way to channel their agression as opposed to punching people out all the time, and that the local sports club will offer young people more camaraderie and friendship than a gang ever will. Why didnt he say that rugby gave him oppurtunites that he never would have had, the chance to meet people and travel the world, to meet a great bunch of friends who would be in his life forever? He could have had all of New Zealand sit up and notice with a speech like that....
But oh no, it has to be some grumpy old man speech whining about not being able to leave the kids in the car for hours while he was at the pub.
And another thing too....I always noticed that the people who bang on the loudest about political correctness, are always those who want to impost a PC agenda of their own.
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Brian Lochore said it like it is. Too much PC stuff stopping things happening