Is Peters eyeing a comeback?

Last updated 12:38 06/07/2009

Did anyone watch Winston Peters on Q&A at the weekend? Very interesting indeed.

After six months in hiding since his election night defeat, up pops Peters to comment on the foreshore and seabed issue and to make a few veiled hints about making a comeback in 2011.

It was a good performance. Peters made more sense than he's done in ages. He made cogent points on the foreshore and seabed, whether or not you agree with them, and appeared to have some research and even facts at his fingertips.

He didn't get upset when Guyon interrupted him and didn't once branch off into a rant about the media. Clearly, either he's on medication or the break away from politics has done him the world of good.

Peters knows quite a bit about the foreshore and seabed, of course. His party was the one that provided the votes Labour needed to get the law through, and it was Peters who insisted on the removal of any references to "customary title'' in the act.

He's also qualified to comment as a part-Maori and as someone who represents the views of New Zealanders who, you might argue, aren't getting an airing in Parliament any more.

So what? He's an aging has-been, isn't he? It's clear Peters has difficulty staying away from the limelight, and is missing the cut the thrust of politics. But surely 30 years in Parliament is enough for anybody? Why doesn't he go and sail his boat and enjoy his retirement?

Well I for one don't think he's planning anything of the sort. I reckon he's eyeing a comeback in 2011, and ironically it could be National who is providing him the platform he needs.

You'll recall it was John Key who cut the feet from under Peters by essentially declaring he would not deal with Peters post-election if he won. That immediately lost him Peters centre-Right vote. Meanwhile, NZ First was caught in a pincer movement because voters were sick of Labour, too, and that left Peters nowhere to turn.

I was surprised he even managed 4.2 per cent of the vote, or 95,000 people, but it shows that he retains a core support larger than other parties that are now in Parliament.

It's worth remembering that NZ First got more votes than ACT, more votes than the Maori Party, more votes than United Future - indeed more votes than any third party besides the Greens.

There's a grumpy vote out there - we used to call him the Radio Pacific vote - and it's currently idle. Vacuums don't last long in politics, however, and something is going to fill it soon, and that something could well be Peters.

National's decision to buddy up with the Maori Party and support the repeal of the Foreshore and Seabed Act, among others things like private prisons for Maori and more self-determination in social services provision, provides Peters with the perfect opportunity to "do a Brash'' and awaken the slice of middle New Zealand fed up with "special privileges for Maori''.

If the Maori Party pushes for a multimillion-dollar compo deal on the foreshore and seabed, that is only going to stoke the anger of some other Kiwis who think that is grossly unfair. That could all blow up about the time of the next election, when Peters would be perfectly placed to cash in on it.

Far-fetched? Not really. National has priced itself out of the market on this issue with its deal with the Maori Party. Labour seems to have decided it doesn't want to go near it again. The Greens are cheerleaders on the issue. And even ACT is running the "inidividual property rights'' line. With Rodney Hide now playing the grave and responsible minister, it's unlikely he'll dip his toes into this debate either.

Peter Dunne has voiced some concerns about the costs of a compensation deal. But no one can play an issue like this like Peters can. Even from outside Parliament.

I don't think there's any reason for Peters to have gone on national telly unless he was seriously contemplating another tilt at Parliament in 2011.

And you know what? I hope he does. I was one of the media who bade him a not-so-fond farewell last year. He'd become a bitter and twisted person who ended up tarnishing his reputation and becoming a parody of everything he'd spent his career fighting for.

But geez Parliament's boring without him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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eddie   #1   01:04 pm Jul 06 2009

But Colin, if what you say is true:

"National's decision to buddy up with the Maori Party and support the repeal of the Foreshore and Seabed Act, among others things like private prisons for Maori and more self-determination in social services provision, provides Peters with the perfect opportunity to "do a Brash'' and awaken the slice of middle New Zealand fed up with "special privileges for Maori'"

Then where would NZ First turn to, Labour could not support NZ First in any coalition if this was the case as they vehmently opposed Brash's views, and can hardly then get into bed with NZ First if they campaign on similar lines, again he's hoping to play kingmaker if he get's back in?. I for one think they will not, and like the Greens, will not win a seat but will rely on the 5% threshold.

I saw a part of the program at the weekend and do agree Colin, his advisors/media PR guys have had a strong word with him and gone was his arrogance and hatred/contempt of media, being childish when interrupted etc etc...intertesting times ahead to be sure.

Arthur   #2   01:07 pm Jul 06 2009

'Come back Winston, all is forgiven' seems to be a timely call. Since National's spine with regards maori greed seems to be made of a brand of expediency rubber and Labour is getting a sore backside fence sitting, we need someone who'll say it like it is, like it or not. I've had experience of tribal ownership of beaches in Vanuatu where you pay to go on the best beaches. Considering we already have gang extortion tactics and illegal road closures by maori activists in the Ureweras now, maori ownership ( guardianship or whatever euphemistic nonsense you like) of beaches will lead to popular and/or isolated beaches becoming extortion no go zones if the public have any sense. Like him or not we need Peter's voice of sanity in this racial nightmare that is growing here.

South Islander   #3   01:09 pm Jul 06 2009

Colin, you want Winston back because "Parliament's boring without him".

I didn't think Parliament was supposed to be about entertainment, I thought it was about running the country, silly me!

I would rather have a boring Parliament that gets on with the job it is supposed to do, with out any Winston Peter's type side shows. And you might think he has mellowed, but don't be deceived, Leopards don't change their spots.

For example, he has always used the "race card" to gain publicity, and this is what he is doing again. Don't give him the publicity he craves. PLEASE.

George   #4   01:23 pm Jul 06 2009

Love him or loathe him, by turning up now Peters shows that he still has considerable political judgement.

It must have been agony for someone like him to stay out of the limelight for so long, but he's bided his time and waited for the right issue on which to return. He's also clearly taken a good look at himself and understands that after the batterings of last year he personally needs to change a bit to make himself more palatable to the punters.

His return shows up Goff as a rank amateur. Unlike Peters Goff has clutched at every possible straw that has come along, forever trying to make something out of nothing. He could do worse than look on Peters' patience for 'the right time/the right issue' as an examplar for what he should be doing.

Richard   #5   01:29 pm Jul 06 2009

I got the clear impression Winston came on the show because Guyon wanted him there. Winston tried to avoid any comment on his political future despite both Guyon and Paul Holmes wanted some sort of exclusive

bobberesford.com   #6   01:39 pm Jul 06 2009

This whole Maori extremist issue ( most Maori aren't interested ) of owning the coastline was a disaster waiting to happen.....and thanks to John Key's apparent ' Politics of Compromise ' it has come back to create more problems and friction. The law as standing was fine - guarranteeing everyone access. Enter Winston, and he cut through the bulls**t and named the issues. Especially, that the ""Maori party""" and other radical groups actually want a separate Maori nation and as much land and title as they can grab. This rigged result ( one of the committee is Tipene O'Regan's daughter ) is finding that 'Maori' in general own the coastline and that this should be kept out of the realm of the courts. That's because legally, they don't have a leg to stand on. The treaty of Waitangi actually cedes Foreshore and Seabed to the Crown. Note also that the Maori tribes had no national identity and there was no such place as Aotearoa. Maori claiming any coastline would have to do this based on their own genealogy tribe/ area as of 1840 ( forgetting the previous tribe they probably took the land off ). Even if they can do that, it still conflicts with the British concept of the Foreshore being owned by the nation, or monarch. But then there's the legal issue that Maori can truly only claim things based on their purity of blood. Most 'Maori' now are less than 10% pure blood and none are more than 25%. So how can you claim you own the beach as a 'Maori' when you are 80% white ? Was a great Q+A program, despite Guyon breaking a prior agreement and badgering Winston for a comeback confession. Metiria Turei showed her true colours, arguing for Maori separatism and title. She's not really a greeny and should have joined the Maori Party. Was previously a lawyer in Waitangi claims. See Muriel Newman's excellent article about the history of this Foreshore claim problem at NZCPR.com . Winston Peters is doing a service by talking facts on this critical issue. There is an undercurrent working to divide the nation via Maori separatism. Some of this is done in bureaucracy - more Maori placenames and spelling changes and subtitles.....eg at you library ( the Maori tribes never had libraries ). And pronunciation changes.....telling us how to speak. Pushing the fictitious 'Aotearoa' idea. Ruining a good anthem by adding a Maori verse to a Euro tune.

Peter S   #7   01:41 pm Jul 06 2009

Peters was always brilliant in opposition, but hopeless in government. Much better at asking the hard questions than answering them, and it was that trait that soured his relationship with the press and the public.

5% is a huge threshold to cross for a party with no electorate MP. There is always the underlying fear of a wasted vote.

4.1% of the voters got burned that way last election. 4.9% got burned that way in 1999 with Christian Heritage.

My pick is that, unless Peters polls consistently well above the 5% for a good stretch before next election then he has no hope.

I also suspect the Greens are on borrowed time. They are only one bad result away from the wilderness, and without ether Rod or Jeanette (and still having mad Sue) I am picking sooner rather than later.

Dave T   #8   01:46 pm Jul 06 2009

Please no way, the guy is a joke and a liar. We are better off without him.

colin espiner   #9   01:56 pm Jul 06 2009

South Islander, come on, I was being deliberately flip when I said Parliament's boring without him. But I do believe he represents a certain voice which is absent from the current parliament. But you are silly if you think Parliament is about "running the country''. That's the job of the executive. Parliament makes laws. But mostly it's about entertainment.

Richard, come on, Winston doesn't do anything because others want him to. Think he was bullied into coming on by Guyon and Holmes? And Winston could have cleared up any misunderstanding on his politcal future very easily by simply saying "no''. That he chose to raise his eyebrows and talk about not heading into the sunset "just yet'' speaks volumes, if you were listening.

Christie   #10   01:58 pm Jul 06 2009

It is a long time until the next election, and he will be well and truly forgotten by then. And so he should be - he is using the race card once again, as he always does, taking advantage of fear, rather than allowing the process of the Seabed & Foreshore matter to run its course. He is racist, devisive and opportunist. It has been a relief to be without his antics for a while, and long may it continue.


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