Steve #10

Try adding a few sausage rolls, pies, baked beans, and pickled onions to the mix - guaranteed to clear a medium sized office in 7 seconds.

It's like saying that if you study atomic physics in order to find a way of generating cheap & clean electricity you are [i]automatically[/i] suspect because the principles of atomic physics can be used to make a nuke.

Personally I'm completely against anything that has the potential to dumb down our universities any further.

If the SIS have suspicions about any person because they're studying a particular subject or other I'm sure they've the resources to monitor the person without issue, this "A Guide to Weapons of Mass Destruction: Your Role in Preventing Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction" reeks of the cold-war era paranoia and scaremongering.

No thanks.

The Tertiary Education Union (TEU), the Green Party and the peace group are wrong about this.

We all need to be very aware that there are (sadly) people out there who want to kill many others because of their misguided religious beliefs - we all need to keep watch for our own security.

The SIS are right to ask our help in identifying these creeps - just like we do in our own neighbourhoods.

Get real TEU, the Green Party and the peace group! It's an increasingly crazy world out there!

The SIS are looking for terrorists where none exist. The main reason this is happening is because the Key government is buying into the paranoid antics of the USA and Britain. For those who use 9/11 as an excuse for war mongering, remember that more Americans have died in Iraq than died when the planes hit the buildings. As with forty years of Cold War paranoia, the SIS justify their feeble existence by spend millions of tax payer dollars to spy on peaceniks and Maori radicals.

Any parliamentarian who makes statements like "there are no terrorists or really dangerous people in New Zealand", is out of touch with reality, and their presence in parliament is probably a threat to New Zealand.

Much as I'd love it to be otherwise, "Disarmament and Security" is an oxymoron.

To Helena #3; yes, we live in the land of milk and honey... wakeup and smell the roses you twit. Apart from the domesti threat there is a very real international threat that needs to be monitored. Eg: A asian research company commissions a NZ company to research a better optical gyrospinktar, they are told it is for a better airbag design. the NZ company uses the Uni's to do the research, the company then builds the said device and ships them off to Hongkong, where they are shifted off Iran to be joined with other parts from around the world to make anti-aircraft rockets. This is not a fantasy, this happens everyday around the world

I can see the SIS point of view, at university there is a lot of stuff that can be used for deadly purposes. And then there is the most dangerous thing of all, knowledge. But think of it this way, we live in a bad world with some very dangerous people in it, and I am afraid the world does need the likes of America to watch our backs.

Look at this way New Zealand is an ideal place to send would be terrorists to learn there trade in Physics or Chemistry etc, because we are such an open and a friendly nation. Guess what, the bad guys know that to.

Greens get a life, because and of the day we cant all dance, sing songs and the world will miraculously be come a safer and better place. Some one has to do the job, so you can sleep peacefully in your bed at night.

Which is the lesser of two evils, losing a bit of privacy or let the bad guys get away with murder?

If the move has outraged the Green Party, then I'm all for it!

When will people wake up to realise, that government agencies like SIS are not exactly owned by our government? its funded by all sorts of people, mainly funded by the USA... I have some sources that tell me that because of this new trade deal with united states, we must beef up security, drop our new zealand equivalent of the FDA and buy our medicine from united states, like hell i want to be following such a corrupt system.

Who are they kidding, if people wanted to make bombs they could use the internet... i just searched and found a whole lot of things. But i would not use them! :D!