PM to look at expenses secrecy

Last updated 11:55 02/06/2009

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Prime Minister John Key is calling for a cross-party committee to examine ways of creating greater transparency of MPs' expenses.

Mr Key said he would write to Speaker Lockwood Smith today suggesting the committee be established.

The move follows an announcement by Greens co-leader Metiria Turei that its MPs would release their expenses for January 1 - April 30, and a commitment to do so every year.

The decision was prompted by a scandal over MPs' expenses in Britain, where daily reports and embarrassing headlines have detailed the way MPs have used the system to claim for dog food, light bulbs, work on their houses and porn movies.

In New Zealand, details of ministerial expenses are subject to the Official Information Act (OIA) although MPs' expenses are not.

Mr Key this morning said the OIA, and parliamentary questions, meant there was a high level of transparency.

"That said, on reflection, it may make sense for there to be a committee formed of MPs, one from every political party to look at this issue, look if there are ways for greater transparency and on that basis I intend to write to the Speaker today and suggest to him he might like to form that group," he said.

"It could simply be something like an extension of PSC (the Parliamentary Services Commission) but the concept would be a member from every single political party, sit around the table, talk about how there can be greater transparency."

MPs had legitimate concerns about such things as accessibility to their phone records but needed to put that into perspective as they could only claim for domestic air travel, taxis and accommodation, he said.

However, the public had to remember that some MPs' expenses would be much higher because of where they lived - the MP for Wellington would obviously spend far less on air travel than that for Invercargill.

"So you wouldn't want a Member of Parliament to be besmirched by the fact that they might have a slightly higher flight bill or taxi record simply because they live further away," Mr Key said.

Ms Turei said the public were having to tighten their belts and it was "only right that MPs make known to the public how the scarce taxpayer funds are being used".

"We think that the public is entitled to know," she told Radio New Zealand.

The Greens hoped to release by Friday details of their MPs' expenses. They would include partner travel but not details of individual flights.

"In our view, it's the total cost that the public want to know about – how much it costs for MPs to do their work, and we think that that's reasonable that they have that information," Ms Turei said.

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"So we invite all the other political parties to follow suit and to release this information to the public."

But Labour whip Darren Hughes said his party would not join the Greens in releasing expenses.

"I think in terms of the work expenses we're talking about, where people seek reimbursement for items to do with doing their job on an actual and reasonable basis, we've got a system that is transparent in terms of how it all works," he told Radio New Zealand.

"We also have a system of making sure internally that those claims are checked to make sure that they're reasonable before they go through."

Maori Party co-leader Tariana Turia said simply releasing totals would not give the public any idea whether funds were being used in a fair or just way.

"If you take the Maori electorates, just as an example, I imagine that the bill for rental cars would be considerably higher than anybody else's, and so might air travel, given the size of their electorates," she said.

ACT Party leader Rodney Hide has promised to disclose his expenses.

- NZPA

 

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Jo   #9   11:57 am Jun 02 2009

Absolutely, what a great idea, considering this is OUR money, we should definitely know where and on what it is being spent. I have to disclose my expenses to those paying them, why shouldn't the government.

simon   #8   11:55 am Jun 02 2009

great idea, how about all the other "expenses"/ perks as well, the gold plated pension plan, phones, cars,clothing,meals, offices, staff, on and on and on.

to be an MP seems like a licence to print money.

julie   #7   11:28 am Jun 02 2009

I would like to see some wholesale cost cutting done by the National Party. If they expect the civil Service to make themselves more effective then let them become more effective. Hell, why not make John Key himself redundant and slash all of the MP's budgets by the same amount that they expect the Civil Service to save by "whatever it takes / redundencies".

Do we need all of these politicians swanning around while the country suffers, I don't think so. IT IS TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO START MAKING THE WHOLSESALE CUTS THAT THEY HAVE PRESCRIBED TO THOSE LESS FORTUNATE.

Jay   #6   11:12 am Jun 02 2009

I agree with Jason & Karl - I would like to know (I'm sure all the other hardworking tax payers would want to know this too) where our money is being spent!

David   #5   11:10 am Jun 02 2009

The government is putting 'value for money' experts in government departments - so why not to the same to themselves... It's only fair that we ALL tighten our belts.

John   #4   11:09 am Jun 02 2009

Transparency is very very important. Given MP's are tax payer funded they need to be accountable. They genuinely have expenses - so no issues with that but these should be open to scrutiny. Secret slush funds for MP's does not give me confidence in trusting our elected representatives. They should have nothing to hide - and if they do - thenm perhaps they should be doing something else career wise.

Sasquatch   #3   11:09 am Jun 02 2009

instead of greater transparency they should just have their spending limit cut down. This way unecessary expenses will be chopped by MP themselves, unless they want to start paying for official things on their own.

Karl   #2   10:53 am Jun 02 2009

Hell yes, secrecy surrounding the use of millions of dollars of taxpayer-funded expenses should be lifted. I wanna see how often these taxpayer funded employee's are flying first class and taking there family with them.

Jason   #1   10:47 am Jun 02 2009

Sounds like a brilliant idea...! Get the MPs to decide what they want to disclose! What is wrong with putting an independant review committee together? MPs are employees of the country. If I am one of their employers then I want to know where my money is spent!!!

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