Right hand rule not the right rule - AA

Last updated 16:36 18/08/2009

Relevant offers

Politics

Shake-up heading in EQC's direction Brownlee turns up heat on council over rebuild Agency mulled to run emergency 111 system MPs' travel bills leap during election Remedial work for navy's problem ship Wait for new oil law before awarding permits, Govt urged TVNZ included in police Electoral Act investigation Sea law 'an environmental risk' Govt defends 50c an hour minimum wage lift Maori queue-jumping for SOEs raised

The notorious right hand rule should be consigned to the dustbin as a bad idea and if Australia can do it, so can we, says the Automobile Association.

New Zealand is the only country in the world with the right hand rule – if cars are turning they give way to all traffic not turning, and in all other situations, give way to traffic crossing or approaching from the right.

Transport Minister Steven Joyce released the "Safer Journeys" discussion document today, throwing up more than 60 suggested changes to laws, regulations and policies to reduce the road toll.

One change could be making right turning cars give way to traffic turning left into the same road, which would give drivers less to think about.

It is estimated this could reduce intersection crashes by 7 percent, though it would take a $2 million education campaign to get drivers used to the idea, and $1 million to make changes to road signs and road markings.

According to the AA, New Zealand's give way rules are a factor in 2560 intersection crashes and one or two deaths each year.

"It's basically ridiculous that New Zealand has got a different rule to everyone else in the world," said AA spokesman Mike Noon.

The AA had long lobbied for the right hand rule to be changed, he said.

It was introduced here in 1977 and originally came from Melbourne where it assisted trams.

Here it was seen as a way to deal with a large number of intersections, before many intersections were replaced with roundabouts, Mr Noon said.

Melbourne has since got rid of the rule but in New Zealand attempts to also revoke, supported by Ministry of Transport, Minister of Transport Safety, police, local government, Institute of Professional Engineers, cycling groups, and the AA, have been voted down by Cabinet as "too hard for the public to cope with".

Mr Noon said the rule was confusing for the more than 1 million tourists that visited New Zealand each year and New Zealanders travelling all over the planet.

The rule was responsible for a lot of side impact accidents, where the driver was not well protected.

One newspaper survey showed 20 percent of drivers did not observe it, he said.

"In most cases he who is bravest goes first and gets across."

Australia managed to get rid of the rule in 1993 without too much trouble, he said.

Ad Feedback

- NZPA

109 comments
Post a comment
Myrtonos   #109   04:12 am Oct 17 2011

"As long as you use your peripheral vision, mirrors and INDICATORS everything will be fine!"

What about those with peripheral visual impairment? And especially one-eyed people, yes many of them drive.

Andrew   #108   08:28 pm Mar 04 2010

It is a perfectly clear and reasonable rule to clear heavily congested intersections. If people by now can't understand it, there needs to be more stringent driver testing, that's all.

I can think of dozens of intersections right now that would be almost impossible to turn into at some times of day, if this rule were not in place. It is polite, more than anything. The vehicles that have it easy, give way to those with more difficulty. Same reason downhill traffic give to upward vehicles, etc. But, then we're world renown for being some of the most impolite drivers around, so let's not have rules that help dispel that reputation...

The human brain does multiples of simultaneous things in order to merely walk, never-mind drive. Which is why (apparently) we only allow sensible adults to possess licenses. So that can't be a reasonable argument.

Just because we're the only country that does it doesn't make it wrong. Ask Kate Sheppard...

"Most people don't understand it or follow it". Most people don't follow the spreed limit. Do we keep changing that ?

I'm with Hamish, above. Don't change it.

Marie Chin   #107   10:53 pm Mar 03 2010

By far the worst road rule ever - no wonder Australia (Melbourne) got rid of it. It's quite simple - if you are turning across the traffic - wait and give way! What I have noticed since being in New Zealand is that so many people turning left stop to give wsy - being totally unaware that there is traffic behind them not turning left - the right hand turning person can't go anyway! The situation can become quite 'dicey'. This dreadful road rule is constantly a potential accident. Get rid of it. As an aside - New Zealand drivers could fit their cars with indicators (they don't seem to be widely used), stop using their horns and develop courteous road manners - that is - be aware of people needing to change lanes and allow that to happen - generally lose the aggravation and drive safe!

mark   #106   02:18 am Nov 02 2009

I have lived in NZ for 5 years and it seems like 50% to 75% of times there are three cars at an intersection (turning left, following, turning right) everyone is confused. Not to mention the impact on traffic flow.

Here's another whacky road phenomenon I haven't seen anyone comment on. Dotted white lines. The Rule Book I studied to get my licence told me that dotted white lines mean it is safe to overtake with caution. Unbroken lines mean you cannot overtake or pass. So how come white dotted lines run around just about every blind corner and crest in at least the North Island. I live on a country road full of blind corners, hairpins, crests ... you name it. The guys just came and repainted all these bright white DOTTED lines around everything!! If you don't believe me, take a drive on Scenic Drive west of Auckland.

Peter C   #105   05:09 pm Sep 02 2009

What about tee junctions. Councils were instructed to install give way signs in the interim while the confusing right hand rule was being revoked. Now some 10 years on, there are so many give way signs, that when one arrives at an uncontrolled tee junction, few appear to know or observe the rule. You turn at your peril. This hazard gets no publicity, where as the current grim reaper advertisements on TV show well marked intersections with give way signs.

smartalec   #104   02:43 pm Aug 24 2009

If Samoa can change the side of the road they drive on, why can't we change this rule?

Ross   #103   01:56 am Aug 21 2009

Come on, there must be a third alternative here.

Keeping the rule unchanged, we are forced to simultaneously look both ahead and behind before we can tell if it is safe to turn left. Which is stupid. We must also trust everybody to use their indicators properly. Which is a bit of a stretch, considering the steadily diminishing ability of NZ drivers.

Scrapping the rule, we would be faced with horrendous queues at many intersections, as cars wait forever in the middle of the road to turn right. Even worse than they used to before this rule was introduced. Which is frustrating and dangerous.

Every intersection has a different shape and traffic flow, so you could come up with a different rule for each intersection. But even I might find that too confusing.

So the only thing I can come up with is to just keep on widening the intersections and adding extra lanes, as we have been slowly doing over the years. And that is very expensive. And impossible in many places.

Anybody got anything better?

TonyH   #102   05:11 pm Aug 20 2009

After driving in NZ for 35 years and in Sydney for 10 years, I have to say Australia has it right. Less confusion, everyone knows who has right of way without having to assess traffic from many directions to be able to make a decision whether to turn or not. NZ could put up a few more "No Right Turn" on those dangerous intersections. Go to the next intersection to turn safely. Works here.

Chris   #101   12:42 pm Aug 20 2009

The title to the article is incorrect, it is not about dumping the give way to your right rule. Which in fact most people do not follow. It is removing the ridiculous "left turning traffic, give way rule". If you take a holiday in Aussie it takes just driving for a short time to learn the better way.

Talon   #100   11:30 am Aug 20 2009

Yeah of course its right. Its a great rule that helps keep traffic flowing . Mike Noon doesnt know what he is talking about. 1 million tourists ...but how many of them drive?? When it was introduced they had to install thousands of Giveway signs to make it work properly which it now does. I think its such an obviously correct rule that the rest of the World should take notice.


Show 50-99 of 109 comments

Post comment


Required

Required. Will not be published.
Registration is not required to post a comment but if you , you will not have to enter your details each time you comment. Registered members also have access to extra features. Create an account now.


Maximum of 1750 characters (about 300 words)

I have read and accepted the terms and conditions
These comments are moderated. Your comment, if approved, may not appear immediately. Please direct any queries about comment moderation to the Opinion Editor at blogs@stuff.co.nz
Special offers
Opinion poll

Do you think politicians spend too much on travel?

Yes - they should be reined in

No - travelling is part of their jobs

Vote Result

Featured Promotions

Sponsored Content

Pagani blog pointer small

John Pagani - Left leaning

Don't set Treaty back 25 years

David Farrar blog pointer small

By the Numbers: David Farrar watches the polls

Mondayising Waitangi and Anzac Days

The Whip blog pointer small

Andrea Vance and John Hartevelt on politics

What to do with the Crafar Farms?