ACT MP wants to offer sterilisation incentive

This is a step in the right direction. Many will moan about it, but in reality all serious criminals including child abusers do not deserve to reproduce. Many abusive parents produce abusive children that end up like their parents, so removing the dirty bloodlines will make way for a happy society and much less crime. I would remove the $5,000 incentive, and sentence violent offenders to sterilization on top of their prison term instead. Also many crimes should be upgraded to minimum prison sentences like tire kickers walking the streets at night and bashing innocents - minimum 3months prison. Mothers that have children whilst on DPB should not receive additional income for being stupid enough to have kids while on dpb anyway. Also family assistance & DPB should only apply to your first four children, any more than five and it's your problem. This will stop the chain of benefit suckers who pop out babies yearly to keep the funds coming in, and then what becomes of the dirty 3rd world style bought up kids? they become school bullies, and losers, and criminals, basically they become their parents.

"I just cringe at the thought of sterilisation, it's a thing that takes you back to Hitler and that sort of thinking."

"Reductio ad Hitlerum, is an ad hominem or ad misericordiam argument, and is an informal fallacy. It is a fallacy of irrelevance where a conclusion is suggested based solely on something or someone's origin rather than its current meaning or context. This overlooks any difference to be found in the present situation, typically transferring the positive or negative esteem from the earlier context. Hence this fallacy fails to examine the claim on its merit."

Hitler was an advocate for animal welfare and the environment so greenpeace and the SPCA must be evil...

It doesnt take much frontal lobe power to see what will happen when the dregs of society have six children each while the most intelligent mothers go barren into their 30s and 40s to pursue their 'career'.

Child abusers like all criminals are "made" not born unto,so sterilising wont stop child abuse or ciminal activity,cos its all learnt behaviour.

I am not in favour of giving child abusers or anyone else convicted of a crime $5k to be sterilised. But if we are serious about combatting child abuse then options even those out on the fringe need to be considered. Its so simplistic to say, people struggling need to ask for help. Either the help isn't there within our over worked community groups or Social Development, CYPS etc or the person doesn't ask cos in their mind they clearly don't see there is anything wrong with abusing kids. For whatever reason it seems that those who can least afford to end up having the most kids. And often they have not the faintest idea what being a parent means. I myself think anyone convicted of child abuse should be executed but I don't imagine that would ever happen. We try to rehabilitate or excuse the person cos they were under stress. Get real Kiwis, we need to turn off the PC meter and actually do something here. So we either: A) Stop "at risk" people from having kids or B) Remove any children born to parents deemed "at risk" or C) Ensure we have enough Funeral Directors to cope with the number of dead kids

Is this man an idiot! Do our polititions now think that they have the power to select who will be and who will not be sterilized. Are we in NZ or China?

This is a great idea!!!!!

I think that it should be extended to all criminals. Overall we would save billions of dollars and have a more productive society!!!

@ Rob Woolley - great opinion - thinking of the bigger picture...

You sound like a smart person - so would be interested to hear your suggestions / solution?

Pwahaha!! I'm imagining a doctor saying "Hey, I'm going to castrate you. But at least you will be $5k richer." (Yeah I know the procedure probably isn't going to be castration but it sounds funnier that way)

@ SKWellington & all the others likening this scenario to Nazi "concepts"... The difference here is that it is not only "undesirable" - abusing children is completely UNACCEPTABLE! Should people that abuse & molest children be able to have children? I'm not saying that sterilisation (& a $5k incentive) is the right answer but...what's your suggestion?? Personally I think they deserve to be shot (another of your Nazi concepts I suspect?)...

Does this mean if someone wants to make $5000 they should beat their child or worse, get reported to CYF, then report for sterilisation, interesting idea but it obviously is not the answer.