Key questions whether Carter unwell

BY JOHN HARTEVELT
Last updated 10:29 03/08/2010
John Key
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SICK SURPRISE: John Key is quizzed about Labour and Chris Carter's woes on his way to caucus today.
CHRIS CARTER:
JOHN SELKIRK
CHRIS CARTER: Has asked Speaker Lockwood Smith for leave from Parliament because he is unwell.

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Prime Minister John Key has laughed at suggestions the shunned Labour MP Chris Carter is unwell.

Key this morning challenged Carter to "tell the New Zealand public that he genuinely believes that he is sick".

Carter was last week thrown out of Labour's caucus after a bungled attempt to post an anonymous letter to press gallery journalists undermining Labour leader Phil Goff as leader.

Carter publicly repeated, after he was exposed and expelled from the party, that Goff had no hope of leading Labour to victory at next year's election.

Senior Labour MPs responded by questioning his state of mind and yesterday party president Andrew Little said Mr Carter was "unwell" and wanted two months off.

Key said the bid for sick leave was "a bit remarkable".

"Here's Chris Carter, he's told the truth about his leader and now he's in the sick bin for two months," Key said.

"He didn't look very sick to me last week. He looked fairly exercised about the fact that he didn't think Phil Goff could win an election, but he didn't look terribly sick."

Key joked that Carter should have to provide a doctor's certificate - something proposed legislation would require of ordinary Kiwi workers who take three days of sick leave.

"He's going to have to tell the New Zealand public that he genuinely believes that he is sick," Key said.

"He was asked that question last week, and he said no. He said he was concerned about the Labour Party and he was concerned about his leader. Miraculously, that's changed."

Key said he understood Labour was having great difficulty trying to expel Carter from the party and putting him on sick leave was "a way through that".

Labour leader Phil Goff said Carter's leave was nothing to do with him now Carter was out of the caucus.

"I'm not giving it or withholding it."

He said the extent of his leave was an issue between Carter and the Speaker.

"I'm not his doctor."

MPs can take up to 14 days leave of absence without permission but if they take longer  than that are docked $10 a day from their pay for each day they are away.

Mr Goff said lawyer Claudia Elliott was now representing Carter but he believed that was more as a long term friend than as a lawyer.

He said Carter was out of the caucus and was not coming back. Nominations for Labour's candidate in his seat would now be reopened, because Carter had indicated publicly that he would not stand again in Te Atatu. His membership of the party would be decided by the party under its rules and it was necessary to follow due process.

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"However long that takes I am relaxed about it," Goff said.

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Pollster   #146   11:06 am Aug 04 2010

Hey Key you had better stop riding on what you see in the popularity polls and start, instead, acting like a man with some substance and integrity. Hopefully that's not too hard an ask. Stupid and inane comments like these references to Carter's health issues (real or imagined) don't befit the position of Prime Minister of NZ.

It's obvious you watch the polls. I guess you noticed the 4.5 rating NZ First are enjoying at the moment and they don't even have a presence in Parliament. So, you in your wisdom decide to make a little stand, trumpeting that you are happy to work with them especially with Michael Laws at the helm. Personally, I hope Laws is not in the picture at all. In my opinion, he is destructive rather than constructive. Here's the bottom line though, maybe just maybe, NZ First don't want to work with you.

And here's a thought come next election night, flip flop, flip flop, flip flop, that's the sound of the Nats leaving parliament grounds.

Michael   #145   03:33 am Aug 04 2010

@Aaron Walker - he isn't ridiculing or laughing - he is simply questioning. As an elected official - he is not beyond reproach and infact should be put through at least the very same tests that Joe public goes through, especially in a situation like this.

The PM isn't assuming anything - rather he's asking the guy to front up.

Last week Carter was all smarmy about confronting his leader in a pretty tacky and amateur way, and he was questioned several times (Campbell Live, Close Up etc...) if he had 'lost the plot', 'was he sick' and each time he confirmed quite confidently that he is/was fine. Sure - he may be depressed and stressed, and not aware that he is sick, but it seems awfully curious that now his master plan appears to have fallen short, that this is the easy road out.

Let's remember who first raised his 'mental health' as an issue from the start - his own colleagues and supposed long term friends. They're the ones throwing stones at him - and the PM has weighed in only to query the authenticity of the claims, given Carter has now effectively agreed with his colleagues.

Noone in any job gets 14 days off per year - we are all afforded 5. So from the start he is already at an advantage. To then assume he can get a further 6 weeks off is crazy - that's more than the annual leave we all get.

He is in a privileged position, and is acting again like he is entitled, when in fact he is not. I suggest he enjoys the last 2 months of his parliamentary career, one that will not be remembered with much endearment at all.

Leigh   #144   11:41 pm Aug 03 2010

I will never understand why people continue to describe John Key as charismatic... My dogs bum has more charisma & charm & is a lot less smarmy.

claire   #143   11:25 pm Aug 03 2010

John Key you are the man. all this only serves to make labour (even) weaker- is a shame the tax payer has to fund chris carters nice long holiday but so be it, I'll have another term under national thanks.

wgton whinger   #142   10:25 pm Aug 03 2010

weird that key would comment. Interesting that he is feeling threatened enough by Labour and Goff to feel he needs to attack. Or are the puppeters getting carried away and getting tweaking him?

cynic   #141   10:12 pm Aug 03 2010

Aaron (105). If John Key's daughter was working for us as her father is, then we would have every right to question her if she claims illness (of any sort) is affecting her performance. However she's not, so the argument is irrelevant. Let's leave the politicians' children out of this. Remember, Carter is gay, so everything he is criticised for is because he's being penalised due to his sexual orientation. Oh wait - that's his stance. I just find his "illness" to be a little too convenient in timing.

Lulu   #140   09:29 pm Aug 03 2010

Chris Carter is playing everyone and is yet again getting a free ride. Good on Key for calling his bluff. Cunning Carter is hiding behind being unwell and his supporters (ruling council, too?) are enabling him. Guess it's too hard for him to give up all the perks, eh?

aj   #139   09:28 pm Aug 03 2010

John Kirwan never looked sick either. Think, people.

Shane   #138   09:22 pm Aug 03 2010

Couldn't agree more that Key is acting like a "smug little plonker".

The simple fact that there was little public forum on Chris Carter would indicate to me that he had a point about the Labour leadership and that the current media's pro National stance meant that even those who agreed with Carter wouldn't get to respond on the various forums.

It's somewhat strange that the only time comments are raised about this is when there is something negative to say about Carter and/or the fact he taking sick leave. Is that part really worthy of 112 comments?

While the general consensus seems to be that how Carter went about this was wrong, the only people who seem to be talking the loudest is the Labour party leadership.

It's wise to remember that an empty vessel makes the loudest noise.

Hamish   #137   09:21 pm Aug 03 2010

What Medical qualifications does Mr Key have?

He should respect the privacy of others when they are unwell.


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