Kiwis speak out on changing flag

06:44, Mar 11 2014
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The radiating lines suggest forward movement, the lighter blue signals us as a young, dynamic nation looking onwards into the future
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A combination of our present flag and the silver fern.
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The green represents our remote and fertile country in the Tasman and Pacific Oceans. The black shows our night and day time-zones.
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What is more uniquely Kiwi than black?
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Let's just lose the Union Jack.
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Ron Steers goes for a combination of our current flag and the silver fern.
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Silver fern on black background with green horizontal bars. This is non-political and green is symbolic of NZ.
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What are the colours of NZ? They are green and blue.
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This flag shows our Maori and New Zealand European culture.
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Simply drop the Union Jack and retain the Southern Cross on the blue background.
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Geoff Bethell takes his inspiration from Canada: Replace the Canadian red with blue (for maritime), retain the white centre and add a fern.
The white represents the land of the long white cloud, the green shows the land and the triangle shape represents the mountains. The blue represents the sea. The stars show that we are part of the South Pacific and represent all of the people who have fought under the New Zealand flag.
Simple and bold New Zealand flag
Lewis Potter says we keep it simple. Black and white are our national colours. He's placed the stars near the hoist rather than the middle - remember flags are meant to be flown.
George Williams' design is about our country seeing the sun first, bright blue skies and retains the Southern Cross, minus the colonial take. Day and night in balance and in positivity.
Blue and green for the sky and land, a line of koru to represent the long white cloud, a Kiwi as a national symbol and Matariki using stars from the current flag to represent Maori and European heritage.
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This flag was developed back in the 80s, based on the work of renowned NZ artist Gordon Walters.
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This flag uses the natural colours and features of our landscape.
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Neil Anderson's vision for an updated New Zealand flag.
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Peter Seay's design is based on the flag created by Kyle Lockwood in 2005.
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Kyle Lockwood's flag in blue and black.
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Kyle Lockwood's silver fern design.
Integrating the existing navy blue colour and Southern Cross with a Koru
Mike Davison's pick for a new NZ flag.
The Southern Cross set in Pacific blue, with the long white cloud set over our green land, in a forward looking, positive direction.
Deb Gilbertson says she loves the white silver fern on a blue and green background - the land, sea, and sky of the world's most beautiful country.
Flag with fern, Southern Cross and rainbow for pride.
Allan Forsyth's suggestion for a new New Zealand flag.
Stuff readers' flag designs
A flag incorporating the koru and stars of the Southern Cross.
IN BALANCE: Barry McDonald's design for a new flag for New Zealand.
Barney Good's suggestion for a new New Zealand flag.
A combination of the Tino rangatiratanga flag, and the current flag. A blend of Maori culture and newer settlers.
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A flag design incorporating the Southern Cross and the map of New Zealand.
Jack Ensor says the New Zealand coat of arms signifies the convergence of Maori and the British as well as encompassing many aspects of NZ.
Let's use the iconic images of New Zealand
The Southern Cross and silver fern flag.
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REPRESENTATIVE: This flag design has symbolism throughout.
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This design aims to move forward, while keeping an eye on our history.
Greg Keeble
Greg Keeble says a new flag should integrate the old and the new, showing New Zealand's transition from British colony to an independent South Pacific nation.
Nitin Butaney
Nitin Butaney suggests this design as a potential replacement.
Karthik Raman
Karthik Raman sent in this selection of designs.
Jaron said any New Zealand flag design "just needs to say we’re progressive, we’re all Kiwis and proud".
Janis Barbour said her flag incorporated the two flags we already have - one symbolising British history, the other symbolising Maori culture.
Flag design
Craig said he thought it was a good idea to ditch the colonial flag. Instead he's proposing a design that includes two New Zealand icons, with the Southern Cross as a link to the old flag.
Simply New Zealand
Justin said: "White represents Aotearoa, the land of the long white cloud, green for our wonderful green pastures, rolling hills and mountains, and lastly blue, for the lakes, sea and pure clean water. Simple and unique."
a innovative approach to teh New Zealand flag
Michael Smythe's design incorporates the work of New Zealand artist Gordon Walters.
He Kara - a Flag for our country
Neil said his design, He Kara Mo Aotearoa New Zealand, portrays New Zealand's location in the Southern Hemisphere, and both its natural and cultural heritage.
Luke Calder believes any new flag for New Zealand should be self explanatory and not overly 'designed'.
Damian said: "I was trying to decide which icon was more important to me as a New Zealander - the silver fern or the Southern Cross. I could not decide, so I worked on a solution to incorporate the two and came up with the Starfern."
Robert said of his design: "The flag is composed of New Zealand national colours - black, white (or silver) and red ochre. The fern is used as New Zealand's most recognisable national symbol. The proportions are based on the golden mean to give visual harmony and balance."
A flag for all
Len Wicks believes any new flag should stand out. "As a small nation we should present a modern, leading-edge design that shows our prowess in innovative thinking," he said.

The Royal Returned and Services Association continues to oppose proposals for a change of flag, saying it should be changed only if a substantial majority of the population support it.

Prime Minister John Key said today that if he remained in the job after this year's election, a referendum on a new flag would be held during the next parliamentary term. A cross-parliamentary working group would be set up to recommend the best way to have a referendum, which would be held before the 2017 election.

New Zealanders from outside Parliament would be included in the working group.

Whatever the outcome of the referendum, the timing of the process means next year's centenary of the Anzac landings at Gallipoli will be commemorated under the current flag.

RSA national president Don McIver said the RSA's national executive decided some years ago it would oppose any change of flag. Support from a substantial majority - probably two-thirds - of the population should be needed before any change was made.

"The most significant reason is that we've had the flag for 110 years," McIver said.


"It's historic, it's symbolic.

"The symbolism on the flag makes sense to New Zealand with the Southern Cross, the blue of the ocean, and with the Union Jack which still represents our association with the Commonwealth.

"And it's iconic. New Zealand soldiers have served under it, and New Zealanders have died under it."

Monarchy New Zealand is more relaxed about the possibility of a change of flag. It does not think such a move would put this country's link to the monarchy at risk.

"Our position is that we don't have a position," chairman Sean Palmer said.

"Monarchy NZ's focus is on the role and place of the monarchy in New Zealand and our constitution, and that wouldn't be affected by any flag that we use."

The choice of symbols on the flag would not influence the monarchy.

"It's nothing to do with becoming a republic," Palmer said.

He also would not be surprised to see the Duchess of Cambridge, who will visit New Zealand next month with Prince William and baby Prince George, wear a silver fern brooch at some time.

Former Waitakere mayor Sir Bob Harvey, a longtime campaigner for a change of flag, said Key's proposal was a great opportunity.

However, from hard and punishing experience he knew the issue could be fraught.

"It's a very, very emotional issue and I think that people should be aware that this isn't about a new set of cufflinks, it's really about the national psyche," Harvey said.

In the past he had thought the green koru flag designed by Austrian artist Friedensreich Hundertwasser came very, very close to the right flag, but he had moved away from that position.

Now the silver fern on black was among his top choices.

"I think we would absolutely grow to love the silver fern on the black flag," Harvey said.

Black was dramatic and sensual and reached deep into the psyche.

"If you are going to brand a country ... you need a commitment to be bold, and the silver fern on black is really, really bold."

Harvey also paid tribute to the years of effort Wellington businessman Lloyd Morrison, who died of leukaemia in 2012, put into trying to change the flag.

Had Morrison not died, "I think we would have been much further down the road [to a new flag]".

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