It's just not cricket

Chris #40

Ive lived in alot of different places in the world and from what was said to me is far from what you think. I dont think your trying to help at all, your just backing down from what you said because you know your wrong... Isnt this what happend to the austrailans when India were there earlier this year? If your going to say something atleast back it up with belief. And just so you know, everyone loves to beat the English, not just NZ. Head out of ass please.

Agree with Sione. Was pretty cold what the Poms did especially given the rained out one dayer where they should've bowled one more over to constitute a game (no surprises Collingwood is now being suspended for it for previous instances of slow over rates). That said you can probably draw parallels with the incident with the Sri Lankans. It was admirable what both Collingwood and Vettori said after the match. Although to be frank I can't fault Vettori for his (and the team's) reaction he was saying what all NZers were thinking!

I suppose it's best the players leave it in the past (although it does add some spice to the game in London).

In summary you probably saw the worst and best of cricket.

# 17 posted 'Jimmy, I think you will find that is not correct. A fielder must give way to a running batter, unless he is fielding the ball. "Standing his ground ' is not an option or an legitimate reason for being in the way. '

I think you'll find you're in the wrong. Sidebottom is perfectly entitled to go for the ball - it is the batsman that has to get out of the way. Hence the laws on 'obstructing the field'

Firstly, Ryan Sidebotom was not standing his ground, he ran into Elliot. Secondly, Elliot probably would have made it safely had Ryan not done this so England obviously had the wicket only because of the collision. And lastly, this cannot be compared to the Murali incident where McCallum took the bails off. No one from the NZ team interfered with Murali's foolish decision to walk out of his crease while the ball was still in play. Even the umpire, against protocol, was indicating to Murali that he should get back to his crease.

I dont believe in Karma, England made a mammoth error in not backing up their throw on the last ball and that lost them the game. New Zealand were lucky really, Styrus was dropped 3 times!

....this sort of thing made baseball famous. Keep it up, cricket is a better game for it, let's say a contact sport. If you don't like it, then enjoy your chardonnay.

Good to see some common sense on this message board. Kiwi's are fast aquiring a reputation outside NZ as whingers if they don't get their own way and this shows that actually there's a more grown up majority that realises that the world is not out to get you. The AB's 95% of the time play on the very edge of the law and frequently break it but hey that's sport and the endevour to win.

Collingwood did wrong, but no-one died and he apologised. Isn't there more in life than bloody sport - families, war, famine...!!

FACT IS they stopped saying 'its just not cricket' a few years ago where winning was more important than walking, appealing for everything started and claiming dubious catches etc etc. Get over it for C sake we would have done exactly the same and as for refusing to shake hands???? We saying THAT is a appropriate...jeez, children!

To say we would have done the same is utter rubbish.

I would be disgusted if NZ didn't call the batsmen back, we have already been through an under arm incident that still brings raw emotion.

People mention the Murali thing and that was different, first of all McCullums back was to it all, and Murali just touched down and went off to the other end. No collision, no interferance... just someone not thinking about what HE was doing...

Collingwood will have to live with this, appology or not, he will not be thought of again in a sportsmen like manner. He is being rubbished in the press over here, and so he should be...

Put aside wether collingwood made the right decision or not look at pictures 1 and 5. He is pulling down the shoulder of elliot, why is no-one calling for suspension those photos pretty clearly show intent

decision was made, apologies exchanged, move on. Collingwood made a bad decision and maybe vetorri would of made the same mistake if he were in that position. hopefully everyone forgets about it, its not a big deal