Wales consider their own haka response

Last updated 08:42 18/11/2008
Fairfax Media
THE CHALLENGER: lock Ali Williams launches into the All Blacks haka with gusto.

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Oh my goodness – they're going haka crazy with Wales' New Zealand coach Warren Gatland hinting his side might also be about to respond to the All Blacks' famous pre-match ritual as well in this weekend's test in Cardiff.

With Munster – or their Kiwis at least – pondering a haka of their own in their match with Graham Henry's midweek side here tomorrow, it seems the Welsh are about to join the party.

The haka is a bit of a touchy subject at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff where the next leg of the Grand Slam test campaign is played on Sunday morning (NZ time).

The All Blacks performed the haka in their own dressing-room before the last meeting there in 2006 after the two countries clashed over Wales' plan to follow it with their own anthem.

The All Blacks will be allowed to perform their haka on the pitch this time – which will please the sold-out stadium.

Word had whispered through to the All Blacks management that the "boyos" might have something up their sleeve though and that appears to be the case.

"The greatest compliment you can pay to the haka is to respond with a haka of your own," Gatland, a former All Blacks hooker, told the Western Mail newspaper. "I don't know whether or not we'll have time to plan one properly, but it's something the players will enjoy the experience of.

"The public and the crowd will also definitely want to see it."

Gatland is no stranger to haka controversy. He was part of the All Blacks touring squad when Ireland delivered a famous response to the haka at Lansdowne Road back in 1989.

Irish skipper Willie Anderson led his team-mates forward in locked-arm formation until they were nose-to-nose with Wayne Shelford and the All Blacks.

It was a stirring moment with Shelford, of course, one of the most passionate and dynamic haka performers of all. Gatland, who went on to coach Ireland and then English club Wasps before returning to the UK after a stint with Waikato, said he found nothing wrong with that reaction at the time. In fact it was a moment that really fired up the start of the test.

"The Irish response that day was fantastic," he said.

"We thought it was great because they stepped forward as a sign that they were there to meet the challenge. They were not going to back down

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"Everyone else thought it was disrespectful, but it wasn't."

It will be interesting to see which haka the All Blacks bring out. They produced the traditional Ka Mate version in the opening two tests of the tour against Australia in Hong Kong but ripped into the emotional  Kapa o Pango last weekend against Ireland in front of a frenzied crowd of more than 81,000 at Dublin's Croke Park who loved every moment.

Gatland said he was really excited by the challenge in front of him and his team who are the Six Nations champions.

"It's a huge honour really," said Gatland of coaching against his homeland. Being an All Black himself added to that.

"It's a really exciting week to be involved in and we are all looking forward to it.

"It will be a full stadium and hopefully we can build on our performance against South African and go out there and play with some self-belief and some confidence."

The All Blacks need to beat Wales to snare the third leg of four in their quest for just New Zealand's third Grand Slam.

- © Fairfax NZ News

19 comments
JJ   #19   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Jeez, you guys think you are pretty special don't you...

'They try and divert everyones focus to something as trivial as the pre game rituals so no one remembers that their own countries best players are about to get annihilated by the cream of the crop from a country with only 4 million people.'

'Quite hard to get excited about a "Grand Slam" when it happens every year or second year.. at the end of our predictable tri-nations.. to then go to the northern hem and play avg teams there.'

Jeez...

The AB's are a good rugby team and i love the haka, it's part of the history and tradition of the best game in the world...(you are a bit precious about it though)......But you have very short memories.... Not sure how good your geography is but France is in Europe.. Remember them?!? Average team?!? Munster is in Europe...did you see any of that match on Tuesday?!? You still have Wales and England to face yet...

Being Welsh i hope with all my heart we beat you on Saturday. If we do, the worst Mad Taff supporters wouldnt be able to summon up the arrogance and ignorance displayed by some of the new zealand supporters. It makes your fans almost as disliked as the South Africa fans.

Maybe we should have a Haka World Cup - you'd definately win that!

Dai Bach   #18   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

What's this about Rugby being 2nd choice in Wales, that is just not true! You try filling the Stadium with football fans for a Welsh international (only if we are playing England will the place be full).

Rugby is our first sport, and for a NH team - Wales are quite good at it. This maybe optimism but I do think there is a chance of a Welsh win - it would require the ABs to have a bad day, 50/50 calls going our way and for us to have the luck of the bounce, but it is still a possiblilty. I don't think it will happen but as you said, you have got 1 million more people than us!

JL   #17   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Let's see New Zealand play Ireland at Gaelic Football or Hurling, or Scotland at Football, and see how the countries measure up sporting wise.

Rugby counts for nothing in these countries (even Wales, where it is their second sport and not too far behind football, there are only 3 million people in total.)

Get a grip New Zealand, nobody up there really cares.

Mike   #16   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

I think it's great to watch these third world traditions - much better to see the haka on a rugby field than on dic=scovery channel.

Stretch   #15   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Totally agree with James previous post. New Zealand celebrates by doing a haka for everything. Byron Kelleher's team wins the French comp and he celebrates with a haka. NZ 7's team win a stage of the 7's circuit and they do a haka. It seems every NZ team celebrates with a haka... why???

The haka is being over exposed and it's no longer unique and it's losing a lot of it's mystique.

Hamish   #14   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

While I dont remember the match in '89 (I was only 5) I will never forget the game when Norm Hewitt sqaured of with Richard Cockerill.

It was a defining moment for me, and one that showcased what the haka is about, it is a challenge, and one that was accepted, with great approval from myself, and I would believe most kiwis.

I don't understand why other countries try to negate the haka, embrace it, fight fire with fire. I cant wait to see Munster stand toe to toe with the ABs, and I bet they come out firing and will better off for facing the Haka.

May I also say that if the ABs do the Haka, is there the need to do the anthem in both languages? NOt only do we have one of the longer anthems, we do it twice, then do the Haka. I agree we are a country with different cultures but I feel that perhaps the anthem done in English followed by the Haka is probably enough.

Go the AB's, and Go Hiki and Alby for their AB debuts. Good to see some boys from the Bay getting a run.

Tamil Tiger   #13   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Haka to that. Amen.

Jacko   #12   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Looking back to the AB's of Don Scott and Pinetree's era,the Haka was a bit of an afterthought to show the opposition that we were visiting from a sth Pacific country. This is a stark contrast with today where it seems part of attempted gamesmanship to upset the opposing team before the game. Despite a furious Haka in the WC last year we still lost to France and have lost to SA after vociferous Hakas. Maybe we could spend the Haka practice time in ensuring that all the backs are capable of drop kicking a goal or two when plan A goes pear shaped. I personally don't care if the Welsh do a flaming leak dance in response or sing Bread of Heaven 50 times. The play on the field is all that matters.

duane   #11   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

Oh for goodness sake just ignore the Haka and play the game. If the All Blacks want to do it good for them, but any opponent who wants to stand on their try line and actually talk about the game should feel free to do so. The Haka is just a tactic to bully an opponent so the best thing to do is treat it like any other bully and just ingore it.

Ken   #10   05:26 pm Jan 28 2009

The Haka the League team did before they played England last weekend was embarrasing. If I had been in the England team I would have laughed at a couple of them going a bit over the top.

I love the Haka before all black rugby union games, any where else in sport and it is just a bit cringy.

At least England don't get their front row to go down on one knee and pretend to fire muskets back.


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