Seatoun AFC - Once mighty, still proud
BY SAM BUCKLEIn 1958, Seatoun AFC thrashed Christchurch City 7-1 in front of a crowd of thousands to claim their second Chatham Cup in two years.
In 2009, Seatoun were the first club in the country knocked out of the Chatham Cup, beaten 3-nil on April 13 by Paekakariki in the "preliminary round", which precedes the "qualifying round", which, in turn, comes before Round 1! Last year, the Seatoun men's first team were also relegated from Capital 2 and will play the 2010 season in the fifth tier of Wellington club football (Capital 3).
It’s really disappointing for such a proud, historic and successful football club to have its men’s first team drifting further towards the realms of social football, even more so when last year’s relegation coincided with Seatoun AFC’s centenary celebration. Remember, this is a club that can list among its old boys internationals such as Shane Rufer, Michael Utting, Jeff Strom, Rupert Ryan, Billy Harris and my old rep coach Paul Cameron (the club’s most capped international (25) is Grahame Bilby).
Even in the mid-1990s, Seatoun boasted one of the strongest sides in the central region, led by the enormously talented Neil McDonald and his brother Andrew. It was only in the late 1990s the first team fell into the second tier of Wellington club football. It then hovered in the third tier (Capital 1) for most of the last decade before its recent decline.
(Interestingly, during that same period of decline, Seatoun’s women’s first team established themselves as the pre-eminent force in Wellington’s women’s football – and it’s important not to define a club’s fortunes in terms of the men’s first team alone. The club, thanks to its women, has enjoyed a lot of recent success. But, the demise of its men’s first team has, nevertheless, been striking and a real shame.)
Other than doing occasional battle with various Seatoun teams over the years I’ve never had anything directly to do with the club. But, watching the decline and plight of its men’s first team in recent times I’ve developed a soft spot for the club. Clubs like Seatoun add tremendous vitality, colour and passion to local football. We don’t want them languishing in Capital 3.
So, given my curious fascination with the club and in an attempt to unravel the mystery of the first team’s decline I bought a copy of the club’s 100 year history, updated last year by club legend Bob O’Brien to support the centenary - and read it over Xmas. I found it to be a club, football and social history – and really interesting (OK, yes, I'm a trainspotter).
I learned that Seatoun AFC was founded in 1909 by Charlie Yeoman (presumably after whom the Yeoman Cup, fought for by Wellington and Hutt Valley junior sides when I was a kid, was named); I learned the Dominion Post used to not only publish match fixtures but complete squad lists for Saturday games; I learned that Seatoun had working floodlights as early as the late 1930s (Waterside-Karori is almost there); I learned new Miramar Rangers gaffer Matt Calcott cut his coaching teeth at Seatoun; I learned that Seatoun striker John Donovan once scored a remarkable six goals in a Chatham Cup final.
Club fortunes are never constant, wherever you look. Look at Leeds United, 10 years ago playing Champions League semifinals, now having to fight their way out of League 1. Much closer to home, Wellington United, one of Wellington’s strongest and most successful clubs during the past 30 years, will play in Wellington’s second tier in 2010, having suffered the indignity of not winning a single game in the 2009 Central League.
So, I ‘m hopeful that in the first year of its second century, Seatoun’s pendulum is about to begin swinging in the other direction - up. The structure of club football in Wellington does not make it easy for struggling clubs like Seatoun (Brooklyn Northern and University, whose first teams now lie in Captial 2, are other examples). The presence of so many Central League club second teams in the second and third tiers of club football makes it very difficult for struggling clubs to make upward progress, but if the club can claw its way back up a grade, build some momentum and attract a few more players then perhaps in a few years' time Bob O’Brien and others from Seatoun’s glory days can gather over a pint at Seatoun Park to reminisce and watch their men’s first team back with the big boys of Wellington club football.
I reckon that would be a good thing, not just for Seatoun AFC, but for the vibrancy of club football. Hence, Seatoun men’s first team is going to be Hand of God’s adopted local club side for 2010. We’ll keep you posted on their fortunes.
Finally, a quick word about the author of Seatoun’s 100-year history, Bob O’Brien.
Bob probably warrants his own history. He first played for Seatoun as a junior in 1943, went on to make decades of first team appearances, won two Chatham Cup medals, served the club as secretary for many, many years and, of course, later assumed the role of its historian. And Bob’s contribution extends well beyond Seatoun itself. He was previously president of the Wellington Soccer Association and his tremendous contribution to the game was recognised through the O’Brien Shield, commissioned in 1991 and played for within the Central League on a challenge basis – with the holder having to defend it against all visiting opposition.
Unfortunately, the Shield’s current whereabouts seems to be shrouded in mystery and I don’t believe it’s been contested for a number of years. That’s a terrible pity and I hope somebody reading this blog can help track it down. The last I saw of the Shield was a photo of the Waterside-Karori first team celebrating its capture circa 1999. Surely, somebody knows where it’s hiding?.
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very well written. hopefully Seatoun can get promoted and take the vacant spot when Varsity get promoted this year.
Steve I get sick and tired of people moaning and pointing fingers at other clubs for paying their players. Clubs are free to make their own choices about where to spend money and if winning trophies is high on the priority list then acquiring the best players is what is required to make it happen. It’s always the clubs who choose not to pay players that make the most noise. Clubs that think they can play at the highest local level without paying a few players are dreaming.
Heaps of people may not like to agree on this one but they know it is the reality.
Is anyone surprised that the O'Brian Shield disappeared at a Wharfies celebratory lock-in? It's probably in Greenie's parents' garage.
Steve, you're right that presence of second teams is by no means the only factor holding likes of Seatoun back. There are probably many factors, of which player payments is probably another. But that issue is worthy of a blog in its own right at some point.
They were the days, Chatham Cup Seatoun v Wellington Olympic in the mid ninties. As a player for the club we were down 4 nil with about 20 mintues to go, 2ZB were doing the coverage on the radio. The reporter stated that the game was already over so left. Well we brought the game back to 4-4 at full time. At the end of extra time we had won 6-4. That is one of the most amazing games I had ever played in. Calcotts and Mcdonald's were just starting out in the first team in those days. Why Neil McDonald never made the All Whites I'll never know.
Steve, I'm sure that's definitely the reason for their relegation from Capital 2, or Capital 1...
Seatoun Park is unfortunately one of those grounds that are just no fun to play at. Windy and unprotected, average surface, no real charm and no crowd so it never really feels like a club you'd want to go and play for.
James Dean- Agree Re: Park, (Never won there in 4 times of trying so slightly biased against it) but...CUTEST little club room in all of Wgtn football and nice food and bevvies.
Social teams could be friendlier though, i.e officially invite twams back in for a beer rather than just push off after the win- but im old school when it comes to after match ceremonies.
re the payment thing - when Seatoun get tonked 4-0 by Wharfies third team at the end of last season - I don't think you can put it down to player payments. Seatoun has just become unfashionable. They used to have some decent coaches there - dont know who it is now
I came in briefly to try and help restart Seatoun's 1st team clear out around 2003? (never understood the full story behind that one). Brendan McIntyre (coaching at Lower Hutt these days?) was bought in by Paul to try and completely restart the Men's first team. Both Brendan and Paul certainly put everything they could behind the effort, but sadly all we could do was attract some talented youngsters (all U21) but no other experienced players. It seemed indeed that Seatoun just wasn't fashionable to play for, so we duly struggled to finish anywhere better than mid-table in Capital 1/2 for the two seasons I was there.
Sad to hear they've dropped further, it was a great little club, I hope the Men's side can emulate the Women and start playing at a top level again!
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Nice piece Sam, but I suspect you are being slightly naive if you think the structure of Wellington football is the only thing holding clubs like Seatoun, Brooklyn and University back. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that those three clubs are amongst a minority in the region who don't pay their first team players.
Of course, a club can do what it likes with its own money but the fact that most clubs who pay players are also the recipients of funding from gaming trusts seems a little unethical to me.