Its got to start with the players, for to may years guys have been getting away with very average results. Hawk and sixxer are right top order batting averages in the late 20's and 30's aren't good enough and McCullum needs to sort himself out. one great innings every now and again just doesn't cut it anymore.

soap opera..I'm just not in the mood to follow the cricket this summer.

you can only go on gut feeling when it comes to commenting on this subject matter instead of thinking loudly" oh no its the coaches fault.." Andy moles sounds really earnest and good bloke but the grim reality of professional sports coaching I dont think he cuts it with this motley talented bunch of cricketers.

Dave

Damn right! I can't think of another team or inidividual sportsmen or women new zealander who underperforms like the black caps. We are a very proud sporting nation, with most of our people punching above their weight. I don't believe the black caps even perform with mediorce test results, they are simply an appalingly bad test team

I don't believe Moles to be a very good coach. But until these players start taking some accountability on the field, nothing will ever change, no matter who coaches them

The problem isn't the coach. The problem is the players who have been around long enough to realise an average of the low 30s is not enough to cut it in test cricket who do not take accountability over their positions in the side.

Guys like Taylor have the talent to average 45-50 but not the mental discipline, is this really something the coach should provide?

It's too easy for NZ sportsmen to blame administrators, take a look at the turmoil and politics in Pakistan and India - notice how their players don't use it as an excuse for poor performance?

No idea whether Moles is a good coach, but regardless there is too much power going to the players already without them driving their coach out. Vettori is a legend but should not be a selector, he simply cannot be objective enough.

Maybe the slack caps should focus on winning cricket games and not power battles. Not much accountability possible if they are in total control either.

McCullum - that dude needs to drop down the order, learn/re-learn to play each ball on its merits and earn/re-earn the right for promotion. Lost his mind of late, go back to basics, batting aint rocket science.

Hesson is easily the best coach in NZ I know he's relatively young but who cares.

What John wright up to these days?

I agree with sixxer. McCullum is the most over rated cricketer going around. Vettori carries that team, he must have the strongest shoulders in the world. (other than Atlas of course)

I think he probably needs more time in the role... but in saying that I think that NZ Cricket should give the role To John Wright and pay him whatever he wants.