Black Caps told: Win or end up 'last'

Getting a bit of the Rugby League desire to win might help

Craig McMillan, Nathan Astle, Chris Cairns, Stephen Fleming and Scott Styris

All suffering the same fate....Bracewell disease

The sooner Bracewell is gone the better.

Sinclair was dropped six times during his career - he was never given the confidence to go out and score without the sword constantly hovering over his back. His average is still more than 50% higher than How's, who's highest score is 92 against Sinclair's two double centuries (plus one other).

As for Bell, in his last test innings he scored 69 (and was beginning to show some of the form that made him our premier first class player) only to be replaced by Redmond who is a leftfield-hope selection. He's scored 0, 17, 28, 6, 1, 2, 19, 79, 2, 30*, 3, 10 while Bell is busy collecting his second century of the season here at home.

I'd back Sinclair and Bell over your monkeys any day.

its funny you say craig mc millan never took test cricket seriously! Shane warne respected craig because craig would try and take the game to him!he might not have always won the battle, but at least he tried and never died wondering!unlike so many others throughout there careers craig finished with a test ave around 38-40!! how many of the top six in the current team will finish there test career with an ave around 40 and play at least 35 tests? maybe new zealand coaches (except steve rixon)never got the best out of craig.

Obrien needs to go and since your having batting practice tell chris Martin that if the ball hits the stumps hes out so try and stand in front of them with the bat first, at least there's a chance of an edge!

Justin Vaughan - the mistake that you have made is that you never got rid of Bracewell sooner.

It is about time that we have the use of a World Class person in the figure of John "Shake" Wright.

To the cricketer's, it is about time you realise that a test match is 5 day's long

Yes Bracewell has been woeful as the Black caps coach. However, the line-up for the previous test was our best 11 ignoring injury, retirement and defection. It should also be noted that we do have more than one selector.

It is unfortunate that Grant Elliot failed as he was in good form in England. He is a natural replacement as an all rounder for Jacob Oram. That is until James Franklin is ready for a return to international cricket. After Franklin returns it is unlikely that we will see Grant Elliot in the NZ side.

If common sense prevails Peter Fulton will play at 5 in Adelaide and a decision will be made between Jeetan and Tim based on the nature of the pitch. Ian O'Brien has worked on his game and has been an extremely consistent performer over the last three test series. He deserves to retain his spot.

As for the continual reminicising over former players such as Fleming, Cairns, Astle, Styris and McMillan they have all had long careers and bowed out while they were still on top. We don't need guys who are struggling a la Martin Crowe at the end of his career or not interested in playing. These guys were great players but they are smart enough to know when enough is enough and importantly that there is life after cricket.

The Bond situation is unfortunate to say the least but the ICC determines the rules which NZ cricket must follow. The only precedent that could be used as a case to support Bond's return to the side is the sabbatical granted by the NZRU to Daniel Carter. However because NZC is bound by the ICC this is unlikey to happen.

Yes Jim, we are back to the way we were in the days before Madonna. It can't be a coincidence that during Madge's peak in the 80s we were undefeated at home, while before that we hardly won anything. In fact, "Get into the Groove" may well have been running through Paddles' head as he skittled the Aussies in Brisbane. And "Material Girl" might have inspired him to keep the car. Isn't it interesting that the Black Caps are splitting with Braces so soon after Guy got his marching orders.

Geez??? Pessimistic bunch aren???t ya. Agreed it probably is time for Bracewell to go, and he more than like scared off the senior players we are now desperately lacking, but how about getting in behind the young fellas that are there now. Rather than being defeatist/negative (a great kiwi trait) say go the boys!! Have a crack! You can beat these Aussies! You???ve done it before, you can do it again.

Get John wright on board..!