Robbie Deans is no quitter
BY RICHARD KNOWLER
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OPINION: Soon after he had signed Robbie Deans through to the 2011 World Cup, John O'Neill smiled like a hard-up dentist that peers into the mouth of a wealthy client and discovers a mess of rotten teeth.
The Australian Rugby Union boss was in his element; his crocodile smile was on full beam and he wore the look of a bloke that had struck paydirt.
By luring Deans across the creek, O'Neill would have felt he had once again trumped his New Zealand Rugby Union counterparts, just like when he convinced the International Rugby Board to ditch New Zealand and let Australia host the World Cup on their own in 2003.
He had good reason to feel smug: Deans arrived in Sydney with a CV bulging with achievements, his five Super titles with the Crusaders proving he was one of the best.
O'Neill even went as far as to dub the former All Blacks fullback "Dingo", a pointer that this bloke who would wear the green and gold of his new masters was now a true-blue fly-swatting Ocker.
Following last weekend's defeat by Scotland – the Wallabies' first to them since 1982 – the dream is in danger of crumbling and Deans' detractors in New Zealand are having a field day.
Among the accusations is that he is a "traitor" getting his just reward, although where that leaves Graham Henry and Steve Hansen, who left home to coach Wales before returning to take charge of the All Blacks, is anyone's guess.
One thing, however, is certain. Deans is struggling as Wallabies coach. Since taking over last year, the Wallabies record is just 14 wins from 27 tests, and for a bloke accustomed to success that must be galling.
Deans' supporters note the loss of George Gregan and Stephen Larkham following the 2007 World Cup resulted in the side losing a mountain of experience, and that if you scrape away the top layer of players in Australia, there is little depth below.
All of which is true, but Deans was aware of this before he joined the Wallabies. It is difficult to get a gauge of what is going on within the Wallabies camp while pounding a grubby keyboard within the confines of a dated office in Christchurch, but it is obvious all is not well.
Earlier reports this year noted some squad members were miffed when Lote Tuqiri was sacked in mysterious circumstances, and Stirling Mortlock was less than thrilled about losing the captaincy.
Isolated incidents such as this can culminate in discontent, and it should be remembered that Australian players have in the past had plenty of power. Just look at how David Nucifora was dumped by the Brumbies because he had lost the support of the senior players.
In the short term, several things appear imminent. Deans is not the sort to throw in the towel, so it would be surprising for him to walk the plank even if the Wallabies capitulated to Wales this weekend (on recent form, that is likely).
Publicly, O'Neill has pledged his support but he will also be aware that there is hardly a horde of talented coaches looking to take over.
Those close to Deans say he is ultra-competitive, hates losing, hates quitters. He will need to use every inch of that streak as he continues the fight of his coaching life.
- © Fairfax NZ News
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Geez, I can't get over how quickly Kiwi's are willing to sink one of their own (Robbie) when he is having a bit of a bad trot. Give him a fair go, he has not been here all that long and it is not as if he has a team at the top of the joe to work with. I for one am glad he is here, and believe that if the players can finally get over themselves, he may just take them to a world cup win. Anyone who is willing to write him and the Wallabies off two years out from the big show needs their head read
I am not a Deans fan but he is not totally at fault as many have said.
Yes Australia does not have the player depth. The support structure for Deans is probably no where near what it should be, nor as it is in Canterbury. Deans is probably doing tasks that in NZ he would not need to do. There may be a player issue. Against Scotland they looked capable of scoring plenty but decided not to. Giteau almost smiled when he missed the last kick. O'Neil seems more interested in building profits rather than the game. The quality of the product does not seem to interest him. So we have to watch being beaten by the ABs four times a year when once or twice should be enough. O'Neill needs to be replaced with somebody who has a long term vision. We need to build a quality product else the game will go down. Quality only comes from a strong NPC or Currie Cup. O'Neill wants to Americanise the sport.
A lot of people seem to assume that the Wallabies will come right by the World Cup. Its very possible that they won't. I think they'll be out by the QFs. Like in 07 and South africa. You say he's building team of youth for the future but these are actually the best players available. You could probably count on one hand how many of these "young guns" may become world class players. And they seriuosly lack character. All credit to the Scots but they have really hit rock bottom now.
You Ausies can go on about how they'll be awesome come world cup time. I guess if your are looking for positives, wishful assumptions are all you've got right now.
Maybe he's still getting a pay cheque from the NZRU
Yes I am a Wallaby supporter and yes the Scotland loss was to say a 'tad' annoying but I peel back all the frustration and I see a coach and his staff building a very large squad of players who are young, skillfull and who more importantly will place ARU well for not just the RWC2011 but if handled right through until RWC2015 and including the Lions series in 2013. Aussie rugby will never have the constant churning out of super stars like SA and NZ but what it does seem to have is vision and its eye on the prize, why would the Wallabies have such a successful RWC resume otherwise. With Deans I believe that not only is the normal RWC resume about to continue (exclude 2007!) but he is building a character and player base that has been sadly lacking in the Wallabies for some time. For the ARU and Deans to implement this plan there was always going to be some pain, and yes some would not have been expected as in the Scotland loss but having blooded 16 players in the last twelve months, playing all the players on the NH tour whilst creating varying combinations the Wallabies are not far from being able to produce a consistency and style of play which will elevate them to a standard only shared currently between the South Africans and the All Blacks. The days of 100% winning records by any side are gone and scaringly for NZ the dominance it once had over all sides will be dimished and for anyone to expect that to remain doesn't understand sporting professionalism and that the changes it brings eventually. We can all rubbish each others coaches and point fingers at their losses but no one particular side will be able to lay claim to complete decade dominance, maybe a Melbourne Storm type run is about to occur for the Wallabies and I certainly believe Deans and his players can and will do, but will they lose a game or games getting there, yes they will. Will I continue to support them and not knife them in desperation, yes I will.
Robbie's doing an absoluely smashing job with the Aussies - he's got them going in the right direction and his approach of shearing the team of experience and replacing it with youth is very similar to his successful tenure of the AB's - more power to him - the ARU would be absolutely nuts to replace such a top drawer talent, just loook at his successful record - the blokes a winner and just because they look like a rabble, completely clueless and have actually gone backwards from when he took over ...doesn't mean that there's not a master plan in there somewhere ... as we all know (and the ockers are apt to bang on endlessly) the team is just brimming with world class talent more ...
Don't really feel sorry for anyone who drops Cullen for Blair or Umaga for MacDonald.
I like how people say its not his fault that the Wallabies are losing as he doesn't have the depth or the players are the ones that should be held responsible. Where were these comments when Henry's job was on the line?
Everyone makes out like he has unearthed all this talent in there backs, like who James O'Connor? he wouldn't even make the Highlanders.
He should be hung out to dry!
Deans to me looks like he is starting to lose it. Now I wanted Deans to take Henrys job in 2007, but Deans was heavily affected by his association with Mitchell in 2003 and the way they went about things - Umaga had bad things to say about him. Now the Crusaders success comes from the structures they have in place, a lot of which were there before him and can be credited to a guy named Wayne Smith - current all black coach. Deans is brninging in youngsters and are looking ok for 2011, but if he had this record when coaching the abs, he would be gone. Luckily the aussies arent as demanding. Losing to scotland is not acceptable for the 3rd best team in the world, and the players as well as Deans need to be accountable for this. They look lost out there and wheres the direction coming from. It doesnt seem like much is coming from Deans.
Dingo Deans is doing a first class job of coaching the Wallabies. We are short on quality players in key areas - locks and centres. You can't win tough test matches without tall hard timber. NZ are lacking in this area as well. Barnsey should be first receiver. Barnsey can keep the ship steady for 80 mins. Gits is at his best when he flys under the radar. Inside centre takes him out of the spotlight. The Wallabies will get their winning mojo back before the World Cup and Robbie will be smiling again, so look out.
Fast forward to 2011, zoom camera to Ted's grizzled face and the expression as the Wallabies thump the AB's and they choke again (Final or Semi - it doesn't matter). Faces? Eggs? Whose?
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Winston I have heard all the stories from why the Wallabies are so bad, have a terrible front row (not now), only beat the All Blacks when the ABs play poorly and so on. The same is said in reverse re the Warriors. For a country that has three other codes in front of it and having, I think one third the registered players than NZ I think Aussie have done pretty well in the rugby stakes, won series against all the top nations, beaten a strong Lions side whilst being reigning RWC champs, Tri Nations champs and the Brumbies holding the super fourteen title of only which South Africa has done the same. Three RWC final appearances and has won two of them, not bad for a second rate side, under acheiving at times, okay most times. My point was that Deans is a very good coach, Wallabies have a far larger squad than in previous years and that two years is more than enough time to produce. It is all good and well being the best side but when for nearly all Kiwi rugby supporters the pinnacle of the game is the RWC crown, well lets wait and see in 2011 where I firmly believe the Wallabies will be a far better side then but not so sure about the ABs but heh, I am a Wallaby supporter, not an All Black one.