Thanks John, Your comments regarding another tier have merit. The ARU took the initiative and started a comp in 2007 - gave it a year and then ditched it. I can't even remember it's name!

As far as AFL and League is concerned my comment is really meant in context of those codes draining young guys from a pool of potential Rugby players. Rugby is doing little in Australia to present itself as an attractive option and while that continues I fear we're in for plenty more results like those on the week-end.

Dangelberry #5 - mate, I can sympathise with your comments but until Australia gets another tier of competition in the country ah la NPC/Currie Cup then Aussie will always struggle to stay at the top. Super 14/15 just doesn't cut it as a development tool for new young players. Aussie has played above its weight on many occasions,as recent as the Bok game in Brisbane and won well by the way, but it will fall behind NZ and SA further if it doesn't do something to develop the local game more. Club rugby is OK but it needs another level here. As far as whether AFL/NRL take any notice of Rugby who cares,these are just 2 very local sports that are played in Australia with no appeal worldwide (OK, league is played in only 2 states in Aust, a bit in NZ around the Auckland region and the northern part of England, but thats just about it !!)Their world cup teams are a complete joke as they are mostly made up teams with Aussies making up the numbers. As for AFL well, I guess, if you like that sort of game good luck to you, but if no other countries play the game I just can't get excited - just like Gridiron, you will always be world champions because there is no one to beat you !!!

From a Wallabies supporter (I can hardly type that) I apologize for our weak, feeble, gutless team. What a bunch of piss poor players.

Wallabies are capable of one (1) good game a year. We are no chance in 2011. Changes must ring out. He wasn't on the park itself but he's in charge of the players mindset. You can have Deans back! I am sick to death of all the sports psych babble the Wallabies trot out after each inept performance - improvements here, getting better there and on and on. Just no guts anywhere.

The NRL and AFL must hardly give Rugby a second glance these days. Thanks to 8 years of utter crap starting with Eddie Jones, Rugby in Australia is at best the 4th choice for winter football codes.

Disgusted!

Well done to the All Blacks. Somnething most commentators have not mentioned is that this was a test where all the players ,AllBlacks, were placed in their favoured positions. That makes a huge difference we just need to look at the other games played this year along with the last two world cups to see what happens. Hope this coaching team realises this now

Thompson was fantastic and I was very surprised to see him replaced. McCaw certainly better than what he has recently been but still not up to his last years standard and Read is marginal at should have been the one that was replaced. Read still draws penalties and does some brainless things which has surprised me from the abilities he has shown over the last couple of years. The Wallabies simply do not have the size in their backrow to compete.

I thought that the ref was pretty loose on the breakdown ( which is good) but that kind of play has lost us games against sides that can kick for miles (SA) and with refs that are strict ( silly) in that area of the game. Seems liek it is all about pace and fitness as it always has. I also thought the scrum battle was great. MAny would be spewing that they tookl so long, but those who know forward play will understand how important that was, and it was closer than those two teams have been for a long time in thescrum, look out!

Kaino is good but Thompson is on fire at the moment and must retain the 6 jersey.