Super rugby success bad for All Blacks

BY LINDSAY KNIGHT
Last updated 15:41 18/05/2009

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OPINION: New Zealand elation over three of its franchises, the Chiefs, Hurricanes and Crusaders, making the Super 14 play-offs should be tempered by the knowledge that in the past that feat hasn't necessarily been an advantage for the All Blacks later in the season.

In 1998 the Blues, the Crusaders and the Highlanders all made the last four and in 2003 this was repeated by the Blues, Crusaders and Hurricanes. In each season, indeed, it proved to be an all New Zealand final.

But in neither case was that success transferred to the international programme. The 1998 season, when there were five consecutive defeats to the Wallabies and Springboks, was one of the worst in All Black history and 2003 culminated in yet another World Cup disappointment, the semi-final defeat in Sydney to the Wallabies.

No doubt, as he was directly involved in each of those seasons, firstly as the Crusaders manager and then as the All Blacks' back coach under John Mitchell, Wallabies' coach Robbie Deans will know more than anyone that Super 12/14 performances don't necessarily spill over to the test arena.

With none of the Australian franchises involved this weekend or next, Deans has the luxury denied to his All Blacks counterpart Graham Henry of being able to freshen his international players. All Blacks certainties from the Crusaders, such as Richie McCaw and Brad Thorn, having only returned from the republic a fortnight ago, now face another trip to and from South Africa.

And should the Crusaders lose in Pretoria, and for all their spirit and courage they face daunting odds this weekend, then it'll be the turn of either the Chiefs or Hurricanes, who between them will provide most of this year's All Blacks, to make the long flight back and forth over the Indian Ocean.

With just a fortnight between the Super 14 final on May 30, and the first match of the international programme, it seems a fair guess that some big names will be missing for the test against France in Dunedin on June 13.

But despite the reservation over how much the All Blacks might be affected by the Super 14 success New Zealand rugby does have cause for satisfaction. Three sides making the playoffs indicates that playing depth, following the loss of so many stars at the end of 2007, has been quickly replenished.

In most positions there are plenty of options for test spots, apart from first five-eighths and lock, and during the Super 14 some exciting young players, like Israel Dagg and Isaac Ross, have emerged as genuine All Blacks contenders.

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It was ironical, though, just when it has been signalled that from 2011, as a result of Australian pressure, there will be an expansion to a Super 15 that no Australian side, yet again, can make the play-offs.

How then can the new franchise be based in Australia, when it is clear that already that country has difficulty coping with four teams?

Several other questions were left at the end of this year's Super 14 round-robin and the confirmation that there will be an expanded competition from 2011, with a six-team playoff system being introduced.

Should, as one example, television replays be used when, as was seen in the Crusaders-Blues match, mistakes can still be made in awarding tries, which, but for Leon MacDonald's late dropped goal, could have led to a major controversy had they meant the Crusaders missed the playoffs?

And where is the wisdom and sense of teams like the Crusaders and the Hurricanes being forced to use an away strip when their traditional colours don't clash with the opposition? Canterbury in their famous red and black and Auckland in their equally celebrated blue and white have been playing each other for 125 years without causing any confusion.

And just where will New Zealand's provincial structure be left in wake of the expanded Super 15 when presumably it will stretch into the later stages of the season? Some of these answers, hopefully, will be clearer following the New Zealand union's latest meeting with its provincial unions.

One possible solution might be replacing the cumbersome, costly 14-team premier division with some sort of format based on sections, or pools, of eight leading to a crossover round and then playoffs. Whether this can be viable when the best players obviously will be removed is a key question, and if it is to be essentially amateur will this not cause more players to go overseas?

Finally, what is to become of the Heartlands unions and the Meads and Lochore Cup competition? The word is the NZRU has removed funding for the weekly television programme so is this a signal that as a national competition its days are numbered?

 

- © Fairfax NZ News

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R   #16   09:14 pm May 24 2009

Typical narrow-minded journalist. Super 14 success does not translate into international success because we're talking about different teams. In almost any year of the Super 14 if you were to pick the best 20 odd players from South Africa, New Zealand or Australia there would be very little between them in terms of playing ability, regardless of how well the respective countries have done in the competition.. No different this year.

Bruce   #15   12:46 pm May 22 2009

The question of what becomes of the NPC is staring you in the face. A Super 15 in which 66% of the games are against ourselves is in effect a two-round premier NPC. Now here is the irony. For South Africa and us it is now simplier to just have the top 2 Currie Cup teams play off against the top 2 NPC teams. Why have 24 weeks of Super 15 to deliver that? As it is Super 15 is actually a contraction rather than an expansion; and a real backward step. All conferences do is focus the fans on their third of the competition for 8-weeks. How does that extend commercial and financial reach when only a few games are played abroad? Who is going to avidly following the African conference or the Australian conference. Are they going to avidly follow ours. If you take on board a lot of the sideswipe comments from TV, not too many.

Dolly   #14   12:36 pm May 21 2009

I think we play too much rugby against Australia and South Africa as it stands (Super 12/14/15, Tri Nations). Making the southern hemisphere competitions longer just serves to reduce interest even further.

Please somebody get rid of the away strip stupidity!!! Whichever marketing moron came up with this ill-conceived attempt at making money should be given the boot immediately. The red-and-blacks - ah - grey - ah - Crusaders as the commentator said ...

Ghatt   #13   03:09 am May 20 2009

This whole thing of overexposure of our players because of more teams in the semis came about by a better travelling schedule. We transplanted the belief that we are better to the AB’s and were then disappointed again and again. The better travelling necessarily did not mean we are the best. Look this season and grasp the magnitude of this Bulls team who have to be on tour for 6 weeks of finishing in the nr.1 spot.. When the playing fields are level as in World Cups and by the look of things the new S15 we must not blindfold ourselves in thinking we are superior to the Boers. They have intelligence, brawn and by the looks of things better management.. see how they rested their WorldCup 30 in the 2007 TriNations while we again made the bragging rights ours by winning the Tri-Nations. In the meantime Jake White outsmarted Henry.

rexhapi   #12   10:22 pm May 19 2009

Every year some journalist says that S14 success doesn't translate to tri-nations success-when it actually does! Since the inception in 1996 NZ teams (Crusaders / Blues) have won 10/13 titles-during the same time the AB's have won 9/13 Tri nations titles. How does this not translate into success?? Sure 3/4 teams in the semi's doesn't guarantee we'll win it - but we've got a better chance than an Aussie team! Of course by Linday Knight's logic Aussie's massive failure in the S14 should guarantee the Wallabies a magnificent season this year!

Andy   #11   09:20 pm May 19 2009

I see you stratagy now Mr Knight. Have all 5 NZ S14 teams lose, and the ABs will be the winners. By that logic, can we expect to see an AB squad dominated by Highlanders, quite a few Blues, and barely a nod for the Canes and Chiefs? Clown!

SA won it once, and they also won the RWC the same year. The Brumbies won a couple of times, and the Wannabies were pretty handy around that time as I recall.

Do agree with your point re Aus though. What is O'Neill thinking (or drinking)? But hey ho, maybe it's actually a masterly bit of cunning from Tew to allow O'Neill to spread the Aussies so thin they have no confidence or combinations comes test time.

Hagler   #10   04:42 pm May 19 2009

Australia can barely support four teams. If one is to take all of the Kiwi players and coaches out of the Australian super 14 teams, what would be left? Certainly not enough playing stocks for 4 teams. The Reds are regular bottom placed finsihers. GT its not that he Autralian teams are above the Blues, its that they are below the semi final qualifiers mate. South Africa's fifth team was also a mistake. As can be seen by the diluted might of the Cats, Cheetahs and Stormers. When injuries hit, the Sharks fell over from lack of player depth. Look at he NZ teams, count the personell lost overseas, the injuiries of 09 and how well they have coped, against most expectations. Wasn't it Nucifora who was telling the Oz sides to be wary of the South Africans becasue NZ didn't have the depth? This from a man who coached the Blues and spent at least three years here and he still doesn't get it does he?

Jacko   #9   02:30 pm May 19 2009

Disagree with this supposedly experienced sports journo.... What you FORGOT to acknowledge was the reasons for the POOR seasons in 1998 and 2003. YES of course history states that 3 NZ teams in 1998 didnt translate to a successful ABs campaign. However NZ all of a sudden lost players in that year through sudden retirements with lots of experience especially in the pack(i.e Olo Brown/Fitzpatrick/Bunce/ Zinny etc) so we were rebuilding in some key positions. Compare that year to this year when we still have the core of the players that we were rebuilding from last year retained then it isnt that BAD. ALso 2003 was only bad because of a intercept try to Mortlock in the World Cup semi. Other than that, the 2003 All Blacks whipped everyone that year and we finally retained the Bledisloe. So please get your stories RIGHT. I dont know whether if youve run out of stories to generate for the paper or maybe trying to stimulate conversation but very feeble MATE... As far as Super 14 success translating to Test Arena, Yes it does have an effect. The effect is CONFIDENCE and MOMENTUM.. THe Bulls had it in 2007 and transfered to the Bok set up at the World Cup (although they had the luck of the draw and we tripped up badly). Last year the Crusaders won the title, and they had key players that was part of the core All Blacks (Carter/McCaw/Thorne/Sommerville/Ali Williams etc) and that MOMENTUM and CONFIDENCE was the key in getting great results in the Test arena. SO Please next time you mention dates and figures in your articles ensure that you explore ALL reasons for your view rather than some feeble conservative comment align to Dingo's views earleir in the week.

nodz   #8   01:53 pm May 19 2009

first you get the money then you get the power then you get the women. unfortunately for nz rugby we have no money, no power, no women and no rugby world cup. we do have fish heads who continually bow down to other fish heads showing how players exactly how to lose.

Jono   #7   12:43 pm May 19 2009

There is no doubt that our franchises have the best of the competition in terms of travelling schedules. I know we have gripes about the travel but it is nothing compared to the South African teams. They are on the road for a minimum of 5 to six weeks where at worst out teams play three matches outside Australia. The only upside is that the South Africans teams know about the schedule before it begins. This must be a huge factor in our success over the years. That is why I agree it does not translate into All Black dominance. The Aussies however have travelled well with the NSW winning three is South Africa.

While I am a blues supporter I will be rooting for the Chiefs this week


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