Giteau $5000 the poorer for telling it like it is
BY GREG GROWDEN
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OPINION: Sanzar got it right in deciding that Steve Walsh shouldn't referee Saturday night's Brumbies-Reds match but were wrong in forcing Matt Giteau to front its judiciary committee last night on a code of conduct charge.
Giteau was fined $5000 for making comments to a journalist about Walsh's dreadful refereeing last weekend - comments many thought were perfectly justified, considering the despair the Brumbies felt after several of his decisions spoiled their chances of winning in Sydney.
Giteau was asked legitimate questions by a reporter on Monday, and he gave honest answers.
The conversation went:
Reporter: How are you guys going to be if Steve Walsh is refereeing on Saturday night?
Giteau: Mate, I don't know if we'll turn up. What's the point?
Reporter: So you're hoping he gets relegated then?
Giteau: Yeah, I think so. I think everyone is.
Earlier he was asked what he thought of Adam Ashley-Cooper's try being disallowed. ''Like anyone that knows rugby, it was a try,'' Giteau replied.
If Sanzar prefers censorship, fine. But if that is the case, it then has no alternative but to closely scrutinise comments yesterday by its referees' boss, Lyndon Bray, and hit him with a code of conduct charge as well.
Bray went on New Zealand radio to justify why Walsh was pulled from the Brumbies-Reds match and replaced by Chris Pollock, and the subject soon turned to Giteau's comments. At the time of this radio interview, it was widely known that Giteau was expected to face a Sanzar judiciary hearing.
Bray said he thought Giteau ''definitely needs to face a disciplinary hearing on the comments''. He added that Giteau had to be held ''accountable'', and that it would be ''nice'' if Giteau was suspended at least for the Reds match.
Nice!!! These are not ''nice'' or particularly smart comments before a SANZAR judicial hearing. They come across as a high-ranking official putting pressure on others within the organisation to make sure Giteau is penalised. For that, Bray must be pulled into line, especially as he also said that, in his opinion, the ''hammer'' had to be brought down on Giteau taking an emotional approach when criticising Walsh.
As perplexing was the reasoning behind Walsh no longer being the referee at Canberra Stadium. According to Bray, Walsh's demotion had more to do with concerns the game would turn into a circus if he was the referee, rather than a penalty for the numerous diabolical decisions he made last weekend, or the running battle he had all night with Brumbies captain Stephen Hoiles.
''We have to look at the best interests of the game this weekend, as well as what's in the best interests of Steve as a referee,'' Bray said.
''It is very unfortunate the Brumbies have come out very publicly with those particular comments. They have made it very untenable for Steve to be able to work in that environment.''
So it was all the Brumbies fault. Who's kidding who?
Bray then defended Walsh for disallowing Ashley-Cooper's try for a ''double moment''.
If Bray seriously thinks Ashley-Cooper's try wasn't a try, it just proves why so many referees have got it wrong in the past, because such try attempts, which aren't exactly uncommon, have regularly resulted in five points being awarded.
At least all this brouhaha has momentarily succeeded in diverting everyone's attention to the real problem at the Brumbies - internal division from there being too many chiefs and not enough indians. Who knows - the Walsh debacle may see them band together again.
- © Fairfax NZ News
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Shows how ignorant people are. if you watch that video again, Adam Ashley Cooper was crawling with his knees propelling him to the tryline. You cannot crawl while someone is holding you.
steve walsh is a star.all the people in the stadium come to watch him. yeah right
As a Kiwi I reckon we have the most pedantic referees of all the Sanzar countries, with the exception of Dickinson. What happened to Walsh? He was a bloody good ref when he first came on the scene...then... Couldn't handle the aftermatch liquor I 'spose!
As for Bray, he's a perfect example of the overbearing white coat mentality. No feel for the game, how do these guys get the plum refereeing possies?
Giteau should have been banned for his comments.
People that actually know the rules of rugby, unlike Greg Growden and most Australians, will know Steve Walsh didn't have that bad of game and that No try decision (that was actually the assistant refs) was correct.
And it is one thing criticising a decision and another trying to dictate who you want and don't want to ref your teams games.
Whatever winning a World Cup doesnt make a champion team. Graham Henry said so. Its the IRB world rankings that matter
Henry for PM, are you being serious or are you just trying to wind people up? So you're saying that the All Blacks are quite within their rights to moan and groan when they get a roughie (bad ref call), but anyone else "is not worthy enough of that power?" Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
From memory, the ref didn't rob us of that game, we simply just underestimated the French and lost the plot towards the end. As I can see, your tune never changes anyway, so I'll watch out for another almighty All Blacks comment.
Good on Giteau I say, Steve Walsh has ruined so many games of rugby with his pedantic ego that if he is reffing, I usually don't watch the game.
The refs forget we pay to watch the players and they are so supposed to facilitate the game not control it to within an inch of it's life.
Rugby has got so boring anyway that with refs not allowing the game to flow, it's no wonder league is gaining strength.
Ha ha did anyone hear the Radio Sport interview between Miles Davis and Greg Growden? Greg chucked his toys and hung up on Miles. Hilarious!
First of all, according to the rules of the game, a player who has gone to ground (regardless of momentum) must get back to his feet to continue forward. Adam Ashley-Cooper clearly used his knees to propel himself forward and therefore Steve Walsh made the correct call in that respect.
Secondly, the players know the rules regarding the wrapping of referees in cotton wool, they can't say anything derogatory otherwise they'll get punished, as ridiculous as it sounds.
Thirdly, Lyndon perhaps didn't need to pour fuel on the flames by practically urging the SANZAR judiciary to punish Matt Giteau for his comments.
Finally, we can't expect referees to continually produce completely flawless games. If anything, Mark Lawrence's performance in the Sharks v Blues game was much worse than what Steve Walsh did! Although it was funny seeing him have an argument with I think it was the Blue's trainer. Vinnie Munro also had a funny moment with Jimmy Cowan in which he told him to watch his mouth or he'd be taking a spell, and that Vinnie wasn't sure if the card would be yellow or red!
That comment abot the AB'S dominating the world cup is actully for Henry for PM #52
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walsh before the southland,waikato NPC semi final a couple of years ago,was heard to say"waikato should win this easily" and proceeded to penalise southland out of the game.what ref makes his mind up about whose going to win before a game even starts?