Lack of quality rocks All Blacks
BY MARC HINTON
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OPINION: In this week of apologies, it's worth wondering who's going to say sorry for robbing New Zealand rugby of its depth.
Seriously, have the All Blacks' selectors ever had a shallower pool of talent to pick from than the puddle that confronts them ahead of the looming international season?
Maybe the NZRU should start demanding an apology from the French and English clubs who have ransacked the Kiwi game of its second tier of talent. And while they're at it, Wales, Ireland and Japan should have to get down on bended knee and mutter that hardest word of all.
Someone needs to say something, for it's difficult to escape the growing realisation that the situation is getting deadly serious for the All Blacks. Throw in a few injuries in a few key positions and these are worrying times indeed.
Think I'm being alarmist? Pessimistic?
OK, answer me this: who are our back-up men for Dan Carter, Richie McCaw, Ma'a Nonu, Kieran Read and Brad Thorn?
The logical answer, in order, is: Stephen Donald, er Tanerau Latimer till Daniel Braid becomes available, Luke McAlister, Rodney So'oialo and, er, Bryn Evans. Not exactly a glittering line-up of form horses.
Donald is going through a kicking and confidence crisis; Braid won't be available until after the provincial season, which leaves Latimer as the default choice; McAlister has hardly played this Super 14 and can't even make the Blues starting line-up, but might get in anyway given the alternatives; So'oialo is clearly past his best, but could still be the next best No8 behind Read; and at lock there are plenty of options, but none anywhere near Thorn's calibre.
Then there's hooker. Andrew Hore, and his 47 tests, could miss the season with his dislocated shoulder. So who's behind Keven Mealamu? The injury-prone Corey Flynn might be healed in time. Might. Jason Rutledge has played well in the south. Or do they go back to the wobbly arm of Aled de Malmanche?
It's not all doom and gloom, of course, and the exhilarating display by Crusaders left wing Zac Guildford in Friday's semifinal clincher against the Brumbies confirms we can at least rest easy in terms of a replacement for Sitiveni Sivivatu this season.
The Franks' brothers also look a good bet as dual prop back-ups of quality and, with the likes of Carter, McCaw and Read coming into some timely form, and Thorn showing no signs of heading off for the La-Z-Boy just yet, well, thank goodness for the Crusaders.
But the red-and-blacks can't plug all the gaps in the All Blacks squad and, when you look at a likely 26 for the looming test series, there are some big calls to make.
For me the biggest concerns come in midfield, where Isaia Toeava's chronic hip injury is a serious blow, at back-up first five, and with the fifth loose forward and third lock. There will also be a close call at second halfback, where Alby Mathewson could end the New Zealand career of Piri Weepu with his inclusion on form.
But even that relatively straightforward call brings further concerns. If Carter happened to go down, could we rely on Donald's shaky boot in a big-time test? Weepu's goal-kicking, not to mention his ability to shift into first five-eighths, might well be more compelling credentials than his halfback play.
The injuries to Mils Muliaina and Tom Donnelly also cloud matters. We're told they should be fit again by June, but they won't have played any top-level rugby in a couple of months. Can they be seriously picked on that basis? You'd think not, but desperate times and all that.
All things being equal, I'd go with the Franks' boys alongside Tony Woodcock and Neemia Tialata as props, pray for Hore to heal quickly at hooker, Thorn, Anthony Boric and, if Tom Donnelly's not available, one of either Josh Bekhuis, Bryn Evans or Sam Whitelock at lock. Definitely not Chris Jack. And in the loose I'd be tempted to go with either Victor Vito or Liam Messam, rather than the declining abilities of So'oialo, as the fifth loosie alongside certainties McCaw, Read, Adam Thomson and Jerome Kaino.
Mathewson and Donald should be back-ups at nine and 10 (it's way too early for Aaron Cruden), but midfield is murky behind Nonu and Conrad Smith. Who covers second-five? Do you take McAlister on trust? Or pick, say, Benson Stanley. Similar story with the out-of-sorts Richard Kahui. Is Rene Ranger worth a punt? The back three, thankfully, is much healthier, with Cory Jane and Guildford certainties, Joe Rokocoko a likely recall and Israel Dagg, Hosea Gear, Ben Smith, Lelia Masaga and even Ranger lurking, depending on Muliaina's status.
All told, hardly a cause for unbounded optimism a year out from a certain tournament.
Then there's the other mob. Is Robbie Deans already feeling the pressure ahead of a season where expectations for the Wallabies are the highest they've been since his trumpeted arrival as the Kiwi messiah?
A polite request for a chat with Deans ahead of the international season was met with a firm "thanks, but no thanks" from his lackey. The message: he'd been doing the rounds of the Aussie media and felt he'd talked enough.
Hmmm. Deans has had some pretty favourable treatment from rugby scribes this side of the ditch and it's interesting to see him putting the shutters up now. What's he got to hide?
Maybe he's looking to keep things as under the radar as he can ahead of a key season for the Wallabies. The signs are certainly positive, based on a Super 14 campaign that's confirmed the suspicion the Australians have a crop of young players on the improve.
My read on Deans' silence is he wants to do his talking on the field this Tri Nations. Given the way the likes of Will Genia, Quade Cooper, Lachlan Turner, Matt Hodgson and any number of other young comers have been going, it looks like being an exciting season for the Wannabes. But can they put to rest their All Blacks' hoodoo?
I suspect Deans backs his men to do just that, but doesn't want to say so.
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It's all a bit depressing reading the comments here. Sure - the AB's don't look like they'll be as strong as other years but the top team at least will be pretty solid.
I have to agree with other comments about Donald. If the selectors pick him for the June tests I will remove my support from them as selectors. They have generally done the best with what they have, and picking Donald last year was probably the right thing to do at the time. But Donald has shown he is not an international player and has shown some pretty worrying signs in this year's S14.
There hasn't really been any younger players in the S14 that have shown the kind of skill and form and X-factor that says "you have to pick me or else" so I doubt there will be any major surprises. Dagg might get a shot, possibly Sam Whitelock and probably Vito (over So'oialo) and Rutledge on form (given Hore is injured). I'd be a little surprised if Cruden was picked.
It will be interesting next year (or possibly the end of this year) if SBW decides to make the move to NZ. If he makes the grade it could make for a very exciting backline.
maybe all those players went to the northen hemisphere because they dont like the coaches.As for the injuries hore,mils,nonu etc were around when mitchell was coach. But dont write delaney off yet,remember every time he has played he has had to put up with donald outside him just wait he will manage to make carter look like crap too if he starts at 2nd5.
No rexhapi!! The Blues were out of the competition earlier then the Hurricanes...please get it!
Some of these younger players need to be selected, now is the time to give some of them their chance to establish some continuity and time within the AB setup. Whitelock or Clarke at lock could be given some game time behind Thorn & Boric. Elliott at hooker; Stanley (or Kahui) at 2nd 5; Guildford/Maitland/Ben Smith at winger; Cruden/Brett at 1st 5; Matthewson at half; Messam at No 8; Whitelock/Latimer (not Daniel Braid) at openside; both Franks/MacIntosh/Faumuina at prop amongst other youngsters should also be given a look at.
Now is the time for the youngsters! Some of the older players who physically can't seem to back up their experience any more such as So'oialo/Muliaina/Rokocoko (this year is an aberration, trust me) mustn't be persevered with, there's no point in persevering with them any longer.
Yes, Mark. This outrageous policy of kidnap and torture by the NH clubs until they get a player's signature has to stop...
Nah, cos we're awesome, eh, bro...nah,yeah,play for full 80 mins...AB's the best yeah mate at holding onto the f..ing pill, y'know,eh,ah, yeah,...hit em hard in the ruck, cleanout eh, nah, yeah,um,um,ah...awesome eh, henry da man...um cheers mate!
Jason #19 you are the example of most NZ AB rugby fans who predict AB wins by 30 or more points and highlight the head in the sand approach. SA has the wood on the ABs for the past 2 years home and away, even France beat the ABs in a series and at HOME. As for the Wallabies lacking depth, I don't know which Super 14 competition you have been watching but from where I sit the Wallabies have considerable more depth across the park with possibly 4&5 only having Sharpe and Mumm as present 1st choices with Horwill injured and Vickerman a no go to come back. You just have to look at 10, 12 and 15 to realise the playmarking roles are covered and although Moore cracked his jaw the likes of Palota Nou, Faainga and Frier stand there and as for Centre, Horne, Chambers, Mortlock(too old?), Carter (Tom) even Ioanne. Come on Kiwi's understand you are not miles in front of everyone now, if anything you are just one of the teams in the front running pack. Hurts doesn't it!
I agree with you Nigehead #72, he was in the camp for a while last year, an awesome player at 10, 15, 11, or even 12...(10 being his position that got him this far in his career) a perfect player to have on the bench to cover all these positions. all the other 10's in the country aren't kicking at the moment, except Carter, and Brett ( which defence lets him down, and also can only play 10, 12, tooo flakey)Give him a go Henry........
I reckon the Maori side will be good this year. I think they'd beat the AB's too.
15. C Jane 14. H Gear 13. R Kahui 12. Q Cooper 11. R Ranger 10. S Brett 09. P Weepu 08. L Houston 07. T Latimer 06. L Messam 05. I Ross 04. R Graham 03. C Hayman 02. A De Malmanche 01. C Newland.
16. J Ellison 17. R Filipo 18.H Elliot 19. D Braid 20. R Kingi 21. L McAlister 22. I Dagg .
Honestly, no team on earth could beat that line up.
Well, Weepu can kick and cover number 10 if required so you could drop brett put in matherson. Curden is too small, Donald cant kick either, Delany hasnt played enough, Mcalister been overseas has proved you cant come back to NZ and play top level rugby. So why do people want nick evans back, we all know northern rugby is nothing on our Southern rugby. Even though the chiefs lost many games Messam was a force, and a line breaker The Blues might not have played well as a team but with other influential players from other unions they should combine well. We need bulk and power. We have to try something otherwise SA will out muscle us again. We need to be proactive, and try a new XV with some good hard mongrel players our side. Hey I might have picked blues players but im a chiefs fan. The blues took down top teams on the games they did win
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South Africa has got it right including NH players in their test teams. Rugby is a business, an entertainment business. Lose games, lose sponsors, lose sponsors, lose money, lose money, lose quality talent, lose quality talent, eventually the brand dies. Think about it!!