Calls out to close beer price gap
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Liquor licensing inspectors are backing calls by Taranaki publicans to close the price gap between on and off-licensed premises.
Bar owners from around the region told the Taranaki Daily News they wanted to see some parity between the price of beer in bars and supermarkets and bottle stores.
The call came at the same time DB Breweries announced its packaged beer and cider would increase in price by 3 per cent, on average, from March 5, and tap beer would rise 1 per cent.
Murray Clearwater, president of the New Zealand Institute of Liquor Licensing Inspectors, said they supported the minimum pricing regime proposed in the Alcohol Reform Bill.
"We believe the cost differential between liquor purchased from off-licensed premises and on-licensed premises does contribute to alcohol related harm," Mr Clearwater said.
"Those persons who wish to have six to eight drinks in a session pay $10-15 from an off-licence but have to pay $40-50 in an on-licensed premises."
He said because of the price difference many people chose to "front load" on cheap booze before they went into town which created problems for bars.
"NZILLI believes that a minimum pricing regime for alcohol will close the price differential and make it more attractive for drinkers to enter licensed premises earlier in the evening and drink in a controlled environment," Mr Clearwater said.
He encouraged the Government to move forward with its plans to implement a minimum price for alcohol as soon as possible.
Doc van Praagh, owner of Crowded House, said the price of beer between bars and bottle stores was a lot closer in Australia and he would like to see similar measures introduced in New Zealand.
"I would like to see off-licenses a bit dearer that way they wouldn't drink so much at home and come out earlier," Mr van Praagh said.
He believed if people were drinking in a controlled environment it would reduce the alcohol related harm.
"Especially at home and on the streets."
Mr van Praagh said he would review his prices after the increase in alcohol excise tax in July but didn't think a small rise would deter punters.
"If you have got a good product and service, people will still come in."
Bertie Burleigh, owner of Peggy Gordon's Celtic Bar, said supermarkets were using beer as a loss leader.
"You can basically get an imperial pint for about $3. Our off-sales are far too cheap," Mr Burleigh said.
He said people who drank lots of cheap alcohol at home were usually responsible for the majority of the trouble caused in town later at night.
Mr Burleigh said he would not be increasing prices.
"We don't think that the market is right to adjust prices," Mr Burleigh said.
Arborio restaurant owner Simon Johnston-Saywell said the hospitality industry was a competitive market and he was not sure how he would deal with the price rise.
"We will have to look at it – hopefully not," Mr Johnston-Saywell said.
"Soon you won't be able to by beer because it will be too dear."
Jeff Orr, co-owner of Barries Restaurant and Sports Bar, Hawera, said it could be a struggle competing against the cheap off-license prices.
"We can purchase no cheaper than what the average person going into a supermarket can," Mr Orr said.
He said the bar tried to absorb prices rises when it could but would probably have to pass on the increase this time.
HOW THEY STACK UP - BARS
Peggy Gordon's Celtic Bar – NP Stella Artois sells for $9 a 570ml pint – $1.58 per 100ml. Speights goes for $6.70 a 570ml pint – $1.18 per 100ml. Crowded House – NP A 400ml glass of Heineken sells for $8 – $2 per 100ml. While a 425ml "Kiwi pint" of Tui went for $6 – $1.41 per 100ml. Arborio Restaurant – NP A 400ml glass of Heineken sells for $7.50 – $1.88 per 100ml. Barries Restaurant and Sports Bar – Hawera A Kiwi pint 425ml of Tui $5.50 – $1.29 per 100ml. Colonel Malone's – Stratford Export Gold 425ml $5.50 – $1.29 per 100ml Auckland's Red Hummingbird Heineken 500ml pint of for $10 – $2 per 100ml. Hamilton's Helm Bar Heineken 400ml glass $8.50 – $2.13 per 100ml and $10.50 a 500ml glass – $2.10 per 100ml.
- © Fairfax NZ News
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I say bring down minimum wage to less than $10 per hour.
Great. Make the difference between the two factions smaller and encourage more people to go into town to drink, instead of at home, and then watch them get into their cars because they "don't feel pissed" and then drive home and kill some innocent person on the roads. That'll work good, NOT!
Nothing wrong with competition in the market place. I love the fact that I can have a beer or RTD at home, around my BBQ with my friends for roughly $1.50-$2.50 and not go to a noisy, smelly, underaged infested, agro-filled bar in town, pay $6.50-$8.50 for the same product and not risk getting my head smashed in by some agro loser who's had too many and thinks he is Jake the Muss and hates the way I looked at him. I can just fall into bed at the end of the night without fear of any of the above.
No thanks NZILLI. Keep your nose out of my discounted alcohol thank you very much.
I think the gap needs closing for sure, but lower the bar prices closer to wholesale prices, that would also stop the urge for get wasted before heading out for a night with mates and better place bars to sell more thus a smaller profit margin would yield net profit and everyone’s a winner.
There is no need to penalise folks for having a drink at home and certainly not to increase the wholesale mark-up for no good economic reason except greed. If you think there is public harm then increase the tax on alcohol, tax it according to content and put the money back in to primary health care.
Otherwise, simply reduce the cost in a bar and encourage sensible drinking.
Rob #51. Wonderful information for the rest of us...so what?
Good idea make all booze more expensive than P and Heroine.....
What 90% of commenters posting fail to realise while they harp on about rip-offsc, markets etc, is that the supermarkets are actively distorting the market by selling beer / wine at a loss, hence the name loss leaders. The price you pay @ the supermarket is not a natural relection of cost, its a heavily discounted price to get you in there.
Most of the societal cost of drinking is passed onto bars / clubs who have big overheads/costs & only one way of recouperating it; alcohol.
Supermarkets should be prohibited from selling alcohol, with the responsibilty resting with on/off licenses. You cant buy prescription medicine from the supermarket shelves, silly you can buy alcohol..
Classic! The bars want to "narrow the price gap" so they get more business. Try lowering your prices! I know it costs more to run a on licence, of course it does, but it doesn't mean you can go to the government pretending to be caring and ask for your competitors' prices to be put up! Thousands of people drink responsibly at home and shouldn't be taxed more to make on licence businesses more profitable. If you have a problem with drunk people coming into your bar, get better security staff!
Good to see that at least a few people in NZ have realised you can live without alcohol.
The Fox #53 True. Also coinciding with the no smoking policy. If people can sit at home drinking and smoking without being cold or getting rained on, it's got to be a bonus.
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I wish I was running a business that managed to garner a 10-15% profit. There can't be too many other businesses that make that sort of return. Sounds like bar owners are just bitter that they are too stodgy to change their business practices. Who in their right mind would give up having resonably priced beers in the comfort of their own home? You even get a choice of what to drink too, depending on where you live to can have access to beer that actually tastes like beer ( Epic, Moa, Yeastie Boys, Emerson's, 3 Boys). Maybe if bars dumped the anti-competitive duopoly of Lion and DB and actually offered some real alternatives people might be more inclined to patronise.
This whole issue is a bit like the NZRU complaining that nobody is turning up to watch rugby. Maybe they shouldn't have sold their soul to Sky TV for a few quick bucks at the expense of the supporters. As for the price of concessions at studiums, it's worse than the price of milk.