Google cars gathered home data without telling

BY TOM FITZSIMONS
Last updated 05:00 14/05/2010
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Google has collected personal wireless internet data from New Zealand homes through cars sent around the country for its Street View project.

The internet giant confirmed the fact last night, after privacy watchdogs in Germany, Britain and Australia raised concerns about the practice. Fears include the possibility that Google could match people's mobile devices and internet behaviour to home addresses.

An internet safety expert says most people would be surprised how much data Google now holds about them – and the company's word is the only guarantee that it is not misusing the data.

The revelation comes after Privacy Commissioner Marie Shroff joined international counterparts to express concerns to Google about its data and privacy protection.

Australian-based spokeswoman Annie Baxter confirmed Google had collected WiFi information in New Zealand, but refused to answer any other questions. After concerns were raised in Germany, Google global privacy counsel Peter Fleischer said it was "clear with hindsight that greater transparency would have been better".

Information collected included the names and unique numbers associated with residents' wireless networks. The data, which is publicly available, was used to give precise readings of people's locations if they were using Google's mobile map services.

Google "did not collect any information about householders" and could not identify individuals from information collected by its Street View cars, he said.

The Street View project involved cars travelling the streets with 3D cameras to capture panoramic views to go with Google's map service.

Martin Cocker, executive director of internet safety organisation NetSafe, said he was ambivalent about the idea. On one hand, the data was publicly available. "On the other hand, these wireless points – they're ours. We didn't expect they'd be used in this way."

Google's methods were also problematic. "The thing that bugs people is the way Google does these things and tells people about them later."

He believed Google was usually responsible with personal data, but most people would be surprised to learn just how much of it the company held. "We're using Google services so much and, if Google bothered to cross-reference the different things I do, they would know a lot about me."

A spokeswoman for Ms Shroff said she was not aware of Google monitoring WiFi data. Her office would be interested to hear what Google had to say about the practice.

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- © Fairfax NZ News

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Andrew   #125   01:57 pm May 18 2010

If people don't even want their wireless network 'details' (SSID) known, they can simply turn off SSID broadcast in their wireless access point settings.

Dave   #124   09:55 am May 17 2010

@matthew Kerr #117

They are gathering the stuff that isn't secure e.g. You house number you don't put your house being a door with a lock. Your secure wirelsss broadcasts info about itself so you can connect it. It basically says I'm here and you need a password to get in. If it didn't broadcast this how could you connect to it.

richard   #123   05:07 pm May 15 2010

Again, loaded answers for the poll mean I cant answer.

No should be No, not No I trust google. I do not trust google at all but I have no problem with them logging this publicly available information. That info is available to anyone and google are putting it to good use allowing people with laptops and mobile phones to get some location information when GPS is not available or the device simply does not have it.

Nick   #122   11:26 am May 15 2010

Its hardly "personal data" if you're openly broadcasting it. Anyone with the right tools can easily access this information.

Hoots   #121   12:29 am May 15 2010

Why has no one blamed THE BIG BAD TELECOM & threatened to move to Vodafone or TelstraClear or Slingshot? Which ISP provides the most secure encryption?

Remember that the most secure data is data that has not been transmitted to or by any device - don't tell anyone your innermost secrets!! - shut up & don't even think!!!!

Shane   #120   05:30 pm May 14 2010

I look at this article and think it confirms the other stuff article "Are we a nation of Whingers". Yep !

dazed   #119   03:44 pm May 14 2010

wifi is on a public channel. if you use that channel you accept the terms of use. this is just another thing for people with little going on in life to have a whinge.

dp   #118   03:20 pm May 14 2010

That doesnt make sense, google arent stealing anything, if i write down your home address its not stealing is it? so if i write down your WIFI details that are broadcast thats not stealing? there not breaking into your wireless, just noting down the info about it.

matthew Kerr   #117   03:05 pm May 14 2010

@Louis

To use your analogy: this is like someone using the number on your door, called an SSID to make a map - They don't have to go onto your network it to get it, they don't even have to broadcast anything, just receive. There are privacy concerns with google, but this is the wrong target.

"How can anyone class my wifi as public? I have it secured, its secured because I do not want it to be public. Now, if I lock my door to my house and someone enters my home, thats unlawful entry. So what makes it any difference when someone "steals" my wifi information which is similarly "locked'!"

dylunn   #116   02:39 pm May 14 2010

Reminds of way back last century when TV licence fees were big business for the Post Office. Snooper vans with VHF receivers cruised the streets locating unlicensed TV sets by the radio frequency noise emitted by the line oscillator on each TV set. Users did not know this was being broadcast. Just like most wireless (get it? communication without wires?) broadband users now are unaware their signal is audible to any passerby. Try the network function on your laptop/pc and see how many networks are in your neighbourhood --- three in mine, all password protected. Yep, it's paranoia. If the network is password protected, you've got no worries.


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