Should cars have black boxes?

Last updated 12:47 18/03/2010

boxHow many times have you hit the road and witnessed an appalling act of dangerous driving, and wished you had your camera out?

The issue is being explored by The Press, which is publishing videos taken from trucks in the region.

They've seen some dangerous behaviour and I imagine there are hundreds of these near-misses each day.

So how about this for a radical idea: What if we equipped our cars with a "black box" device to record a video of the journey, along with stats like speed, braking and positioning?

And what if it was a requirement in all cars?

The idea has been brought up in the US where, following the runaway-Prius scandal, federal authorities are considering making data recorders mandatory in all new cars.

In 2006 they encouraged, but didn't require, car-makers to include the devices in their cars.

Commercial models have already been developed by these guys.

In my opinion, having your car journeys recorded could be helpful not only in terms of accountability, but also as a deterrent to stupid actions by other drivers.

If you were involved in a traffic accident, you could present the video and audio as evidence to clarify who was at fault. Road rage incidents could be presented as evidence in court. You could dispute a speeding ticket with solid evidence.

I can think of plenty of times I have seen complete idiots endangering everyone on the road, but you can only live with the frustration and hope they get caught.

One question, though, is whether these devices should be manageable (and editable) by the user.

In my opinion, there should be two types. A built-in recorder for insurance or crash analsyis purposes which you can't access, and a third-party device which accesses the video/data stream from the built-in system and records it, but without touching the built-in system's data.

The representative from the company which developed the device above strengthens that point:

"What you record is yours," he says. "So, if you happen to be at fault in an accident, nobody else has to see it if you don't want."

It's all about accountability. If people know they are being recorded, they are more careful and on the roads that's a good thing.

If everyone's driving was being recorded, not only by themselves but by others, we'd all be a bit more careful... like when you're taking your Nan down to the Cozzie Club... or something.

In 2008 (latest stats) there were 11,316 injury-causing crashes in New Zealand; 15,174 people were injured as a result, and 331 people were killed.

What do you think? Good idea or not? Invasion of privacy? Would you be interested in a device to record your road trips? Ever been in a situation where you wish you had one installed?

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AustinP   #1   12:53 pm Mar 18 2010

The simple answer is yes. Cars should have black boxes, but it should only be used for serious accidents.

Muss   #2   12:53 pm Mar 18 2010

Yes

Scott   #3   12:59 pm Mar 18 2010

Extreme invasion of privacy. It strikes me as being totally over the top, although I feeely admit I've never experienced a situation where one would have been useful. So maybe I'd like the idea better if I was a worse driver than I already am. How would it work for say rental cars, taxis, company cars? Who would have the right to the information about a trip that you made when its not actually yout vehicle?

Geoff   #4   01:09 pm Mar 18 2010

And the "logical" next step is that it's all monitored by big brother and as soon as any law is broken it's game over.

Of course, that's the worst case scenario, but certainly having more monitoring capability out there on the roads may help deter the worst muppets. Such things as red light cameras could be installed at a lot more intersections (outside my work for example). Commercial vehicles are a good place to install cameras as shown by the footage The Press has provided. They are the ones on the road all the time. Police can only be in a few places at any given time.

Oddly enough while returning home froma motorsport event on Sunday with my in car camera still mounted I had a muppet doing some incredibly stupid driving around me. Pity I didn't think to hit record at the time. *555'd them anyway.

AustinP   #5   01:15 pm Mar 18 2010

It should be just for the police to access to help determine what happend prior to an accident. As someone who has lost a beloved family member in a car accident I believe it would be useful.

Chris   #6   01:24 pm Mar 18 2010

Compulsory? NO

Optional? YES

jhn   #7   01:47 pm Mar 18 2010

They could come with a built-in card reader. At the start of your trip you insert your credit card, and it automatically charges speeding fines as you drive. No more waiting or uncertainty!

Simon   #8   02:12 pm Mar 18 2010

I don't think they should be introduced, but I believe it's inevitable as the technology becomes cheaper, insurance companies look to lower their costs and legislation tightens. Look at the number of CCTV cameras in the UK.

Would it make any difference in the cases captured in the Chch Waste trucks' videos? No, unless you were able to cross reference all the cars present at the times the incidents occurred, to show who was passing who and where those cars were in relation to each other to an accuracy of 1 metre. But a lack of overall usefulness won't stop the legislators, as in the case of Wellington City Council's installation of CCTV to stop taxis parking on a bus stop, when it could be used to make Courtenay Place a safer place for the public.

Doug   #9   02:13 pm Mar 18 2010

easy answer - yes.

of course they should be mandatory. it would eliminate all the 'he said/she said' arguments and provide evidence to not only prosecute, but also discharge convictions based on factual information.

DB   #10   02:13 pm Mar 18 2010

I think it's an excellent idea. Should be compulsory in all vehicles. Better still, would be if it could automatically issue fines when it detects the driver commiting a traffic offence.


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