Pro Bono Publico Cave Canem - for the good of the public beware of the dog? Ok! thanks for that then Karl.

# 67 obviously with an attitude like that you have no children and very little chance of having them and if you do I hope that you choke on these comments. Sad that there are still people like you. Last year we took 17 long haul flights,and only once did we get annoyed with unsupervised naughty kids whose parents abdicated their responsibilities. Try interacting with fellow little humans. I assisted a lady once who was travelling to the UK by herself with 3 under 7 years old, we became good friends and still are 18 years on with her and her husband. She is 14 years older than me. I was a 21 year old bloke on his OE, being a caring sharing KIWI. Hopefully helping others is better than making pretentious arrogant comments from behind a screen. Pro Bono Publico Cave Canumn. Regards Karl Davidson

Family oriented flights and child free flights. One problem solved. Simple. I just don't understand why parents/guardians need to take small children and babies on international flights. I just thank my parents that I turned out to be a male. This means that I am genetically predisposed to ignoring a child crying whilst I am asleep. Look it up - it's true, science says so, or was it Homer J? It's the getting to sleep part that annoys the bejesus out of me.

Following up on my last post (#13) - maybe I'm just excessively mellow or something, but as a frequent long-haul business traveler, I can honestly say that I have never been that inconvenienced by kids.

Maybe I'm just lucky.

Although, I have been inconvenienced by security, large people in the next seat, smelly people, language barriers, toilet queues and lost luggage, so I don't think I'm a particularly charmed traveller.

Question for the haters: How many of you have actually been inconvenienced by kids, versus how many of you are just expressing outrage that parents would dare inflict their kids on your precious presence?

@AnnoyedParent #65 "If you don't like it fly buisiness class we don't want to sit by people like you anyway!!" This statement typifies the arrogance of some parents. Why the hell should anyone pay anything extra to escape the consequences of your decision to breed? Now judging by your spelling of the word business, you might have trouble understanding my last statement, so in the interests of making my point clear I will ask you a couple of simple questions. If I decided to void my bowels in the seat next to you on a flight, would you be willing to pay extra to move to business class or would you expect me to pay for it? Would you be content to sit there for the remainder of the flight and be patient? Because that is what you are asking me and other people who don't want have anything to do with your screaming brats to do.

Ha ha, it's public transport people, get over yourselves. Why don't you hire a private jet if you can't handle flying with kids on the same flight.

Man you anti-child people annoy me!!! Referring to 'leaving it at the kennels before you go' made me mad. So we should never take our children to meet/visit relatives overseas?? I think parents should do their best on flights and not let kids run riot. And I agree if airports had playground for kids it would make the flight easier as most kids would be tired and hopefully sleep. If you don't like it fly buisiness class we don't want to sit by people like you anyway!!

Good. We don't want to encourage more people to bring their kids.

Jon #8

Totally agree! Adult only flights.

The point here is that I am not stopping you from enjoying my trip, but people with kids are indeed making my travels less enjoyable. leave the kids at home with family or friends.

Who wants to hear a crying and screaming kid for 10 hours?!

Bring on adults only flights, adult only restaurants and a kid free zone in the CBD. What is it with bringing your kids at luchtime to the busy CBD area? What, can just hang out in the Hutt? Queensgate too small?

Enough with the pc rubbish.

@Muzz # 30 - if only YOUR parents had thought of that?! #46 - you're a legend Don't you people realise that having a playground at the airports would actually make your trips MORE pleasant as there would be no pent up energy in the kids! Some of the comments on here are ridiculous, I've got 3 kids, just travelled recently via plane and ferry and the kids were well behaved. It doesn't make you feel any less unbothered as most of the time you are concerned about not annoying the other passengers and it seems you lot couldn't care less?! It's unreasonable to say don't travel and stay home. God hopefully those of you with these ridiculous comments are sterile and don't add to the gene pool....