MH17 black boxes 'under rebel watch'

00:03, Jul 21 2014
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A pro-Russian separatist stands at the crash site of MH17 near the settlement of Grabovo in Ukraine's Donetsk region.
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A man looks at debris from Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 which landed in a field of sunflowers in Rassipnoye, Ukraine.
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Coal miners take a break after searching fields looking for remnants of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in Grabovo, Ukraine.
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A man shows a piece of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 which landed in his garden in Rassipnoye, Ukraine.
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Wreckage is pictured at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, near the Ukraine settlement of Grabovo.
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Flowers and mementos lie on wreckage at the crash site of MH17, near the Ukraine settlement of Grabovo.
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Mementos placed at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 near the Ukraine settlement of Rozspyne in the Donetsk region.
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Wreckage is pictured at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, near the Ukraine settlement of Grabovo in the Donetsk region.
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 wreckage near the Ukraine settlement of Grabovo.
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Flowers, candles and other tributes in front of the Netherlands embassy in Kiev, Ukraine, in memory of the victims of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
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Members of the Ukrainian Emergency Ministry carry a body near the wreckage at the crash site of MH17, near the settlement of Grabovo.
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People look at flowers and messages left by local residents for MH17 crash victims outside the Dutch embassy in Kiev, Ukraine.
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Kiev residents light a candle for victims of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, outside the Dutch embassy in Ukraine.
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People look at flowers and messages left by Kiev residents for victims of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, outside Ukraine's Dutch embassy.
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Members of the Ukrainian Emergency Ministry carry a body at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, near the settlement of Grabovo.
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A pro-Russian separatist stands at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, near the settlement of Grabovo in Ukraine's Donetsk region.
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A pro-Russian separatist guards the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
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Flowers and mementos are left for the victims of the plane crash.
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Monitors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and members of a forensic team inspect the remains of victims from the downed flight MH17, at a railway station in the eastern Ukrainian town of Torez.
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Bodies are loaded into a truck at the crash site by Ukrainian Emergencies Ministry staff.
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A pro-Russia rebel guards a train containing the bodies of victims of the Malaysia Airlines crash.
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Senior Ukrainian separatist leader Aleksander Borodai gestures as a rebel places the black boxes of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 on a desk.
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A satellite image shows the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in Ukraine, dangerously close to a village.
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A guard stands on the train carrying the remains of MH17's victims as it arrives in the city of Kharkiv after days of delays.
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Armed pro-Russian separatists watch as monitors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and Malaysian air crash investigators inspect the crash site.

Pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine say they are keeping what they believe to be the MH17 black boxes in the eastern city of Donetsk, but they say they will need experts to confirm the boxes are in fact the doomed plane's flight recorders.

Ukrainian officials had feared the black boxes, which could offer an insight into the last moments of the flight, may be handed over to Russia or tampered with by the rebels who Kiev says are trying to destroy evidence of their - and Moscow's - involvement in the downing of the plane.

Moscow and the pro-Russian rebels deny playing any role in the disaster, which killed all 298 people on the plane.

"Some items, presumably the black boxes, were found, and they have been delivered to Donetsk and they are under our control," Aleksander Borodai, prime minister of the self-styled Donetsk People's Republic, told a news conference.

"There are no specialists among us who could pinpoint the look of the black boxes, but we brought to Donetsk some technical items which could be the black boxes of the airliner."

He said they would be handed over to international experts, when they arrived. He said that the rebels did not have the technical capability to hit a plane flying at an altitude of more than 10,000 metres.

Another rebel official, Sergei Kavtaradze, said he thought there were two black boxes, which are painted bright orange despite their name.

Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman said he could not comment, but that Kiev had long suspected the boxes were in rebel hands.

Reuters first reported rescue workers finding a flight recorder on Friday, the second such device after rebels said on Thursday they had found one. The rebels later denied they had the black boxes.

Reuters filmed a rescue worker on Friday taking the flight recorder but did not immediately transmit the pictures due to difficulties in relaying film from a hostile area.

The news agency also had difficulty verifying that the footage in fact showed the black box. 

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Malaysia Airlines flight 17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.
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The crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight 17 near the village of Grabovo, Ukraine.
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Emergencies Ministry members work at the site of a Malaysia Airlines plane crash near Grabovo, Ukraine.
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Emergencies Ministry members work at the site of a Malaysia Airlines plane crash near Grabovo, Ukraine.
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Wreckage from Malaysia Airlines flight 17 smoulders at the main crash site.
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Wreckage from Malaysia Airlines flight 17 smoulders at the main crash site.
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Wreckage from Malaysia Airlines flight 17 smoulders at the main crash site.
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Wreckage from Malaysia Airlines flight 17 smoulders at the main crash site.
Part of the wreckage of a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 is seen after it crashed near the settlement of Grabovo in the Donetsk region.
Part of the wreckage of a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 is seen after it crashed near the settlement of Grabovo in the Donetsk region.
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The site of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash near the settlement of Grabovo in the Donetsk region.
The upper floor of Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport is reserved for family and relatives of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
The upper floor of Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport is reserved for family and relatives of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
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An Emergencies Ministry member walks at the site of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash in Ukraine.
People bring flowers and candles to the Dutch embassy to commemorate the victims of the Malaysia Airlines plane crash.
People bring flowers and candles to the Dutch embassy to commemorate the victims of the Malaysia Airlines plane crash.
Family members of passengers on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 on a bus bringing them to a separate area at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport.
Family members of passengers on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 on a bus bringing them to a separate area at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and other high-ranked officials observe a minute's silence for victims of the Malaysia Airlines plane crash.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and other high-ranked officials observe a minute's silence for victims of the Malaysia Airlines plane crash.
US President Barack Obama speaks about the crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, during a visit to Wilmington, Delaware.
US President Barack Obama speaks about the crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, during a visit to Wilmington, Delaware.
Armed pro-Russian separatists stand at the site of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash near the settlement of Grabovo.
Armed pro-Russian separatists stand at the site of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash near the settlement of Grabovo.
Talking to reporters, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak (R) demands swift justice for those responsible for the crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, as Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein looks on.
Talking to reporters, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak (R) demands swift justice for those responsible for the crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, as Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein looks on.
Schiphol Chief Executive Jos Nijhuis, Malaysia Airlines Senior Vice President Huib Gorter (middle) and Malaysia's ambassador to the Netherlands Fauziah Binti Mohd Taib at a news conference on flight MH17 at Schiphol Airport.
Schiphol Chief Executive Jos Nijhuis, Malaysia Airlines Senior Vice President Huib Gorter (middle) and Malaysia's ambassador to the Netherlands Fauziah Binti Mohd Taib at a news conference on flight MH17 at Schiphol Airport.
Smoke rises from the wreckage of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
Smoke rises from the wreckage of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
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A firefighter stands as flames burst amongst the wreckages of the MH17.
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The wreckage smoulders at the site of the MH17 crash.
An Emergencies Ministry member walks at the site of the Malaysia Airlines plane crash.
An Emergencies Ministry member walks through the site of the Malaysia Airlines plane crash.
A woman who said she believed her sister was on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, cries as she waits for more information.
A woman who said she believed her sister was on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, cries as she waits for more information.
A father and daughter light candles at the Dutch embassy to commemorate the victims of Malaysia Airlines MH17.
A father and daughter light candles at the Dutch embassy to commemorate the victims of Malaysia Airlines MH17.
People light candles at the Malaysian embassy for victims of Malaysia Airlines MH17.
People light candles at the Dutch embassy for victims of Malaysia Airlines MH17.
People place candles and flowers at the Dutch embassy for victims of Malaysia Airlines MH17.
People place candles and flowers at the Dutch embassy for victims of Malaysia Airlines MH17.
A family member cries as she receives the news of the ill fated flight MH17.
A family member cries as she receives the news of the ill fated flight MH17.
A Malaysian woman who had a relative on board the Malaysian Airlines MH17 reacts to messages on her mobile phone as she waits to travel to Kuala Lumpur.
A Malaysian woman who had a relative on board the Malaysian Airlines MH17 waits to travel to Kuala Lumpur.
Relatives of passengers onboard the downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 arrive at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
Relatives of passengers onboard the downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 arrive at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
A father and daughter light candles at the Dutch embassy to commemorate the victims of Malaysia Airlines MH17.
Malaysian Siti Dina weeps after seeing her daughter's name on the list of passengers on board MH17.
A security officer passes a Malaysia Airlines advertisement at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang, Malaysia.
A security officer passes a Malaysia Airlines advertisement at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang
A man (in blue) whose family was onboard the Malaysia Airlines MH17 consoles another who had just arrived with her wife to receive confirmation that their daughter's family was onboard the plane, at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
A man (in blue) whose family was onboard the Malaysia Airlines MH17 consoles another who had just arrived with her wife to receive confirmation that their daughter's family was onboard the plane, at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
A relative of a passenger onboard the Malaysia Airlines (MAS) MH17 is assisted by MAS staff members as she leaves Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
A relative of a passenger onboard the Malaysia Airlines (MAS) MH17 is assisted by MAS staff members as she leaves Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
Malaysian Siti Dina speaks to media as she arrives to confirm news that her daughter was on board Malaysia Airlines MH17 at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
Malaysian Siti Dina speaks to media as she arrives to confirm news that her daughter was on board Malaysia Airlines MH17 at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
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Members of the public walk past signage on the Princes Bridge for the 20th International AIDS Conference in Melbourne, Australia. Twenty-seven Australians and more than 100 AIDS activists, researchers, health workers and delegates bound for the major conference were among those aboard MH17.
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Relatives of passengers on board Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 arrive at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
A journalist takes photographs at the site of Thursday's Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash
A journalist takes photographs at the site of Thursday's Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash.
Members of the Ukrainian Emergency Ministry search for bodies near the site of Thursday's Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash.
Members of the Ukrainian Emergency Ministry search for bodies near the site of Thursday's Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash.
Members of the Ukrainian Emergency Ministry search for bodies near the site of Thursday's Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash.
Members of the Ukrainian Emergency Ministry search for bodies near the site of Thursday's Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash.
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A woman lights candles at a memorial for victims of the downed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 in Kuala Lumpur.
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Pro-Russian separatists look at passengers' belongings at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
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A pro-Russian separatist holds a stuffed toy found at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
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A flower placed on wreckage is pictured at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17.
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A man blocks access to the scene of the crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 as emergency personnel remove the bodies of passengers.

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